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        06-02-2013, 11:31 PM
      #21
    Foal
    And I already have someone to take care of them if something did happen... I'll just wait and see what happens. I'll update you all. I'm sorry and goodnight.
         
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        06-02-2013, 11:31 PM
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    We're not judging you because you're breeding a grade horse. Yes, that is a bad decision with the current state of the horse world with over population. The biggest concern we have is that you know nothing of your mare's history. Has she or the stallion been tested for frame, HYPP, HERDA, or any other genetic disease? Have you heard of OLWS, HYPP, or HERDA? They are all genetic disease that can kill a foal. THAT is what we are most concerned about with your mare. If she is bred, and she and/or the stallion are a carrier for any of those diseases, there's nothing you can do to prevent the foal from getting it.
    Quoting as it needs repeated. Its not so much that it is a mixed breed. Its that you do not know the mares history or any genetic conditions that could be carried in her blood lines. FRAME/OWLS means a dead foal with zero chance of survival when born. Is that fair to your mare or the foal that will be born in pain until its dead?
         
        06-02-2013, 11:33 PM
      #23
    Trained
    OP, now you know how the general horse public feels, but you already stated you will keep the foal, so end of my mentioning it. I would however make sure your mare is vaccinated and preg checked by a vet to ensure the best possible chance for her.
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        06-03-2013, 12:12 AM
      #24
    Weanling
    Let me preface by stating I've never owned a horse but rode in the past for many years. I've never bred horses although I would love to one day when I can afford to. In the meantime I've been on here, I've read numerous books, and websites and researched until I was blue in the face.

    My advice and anyone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, get her ultrasounded when you should to confirm a pregnancy and check for twins. I know you don't want to kill a foal but if there are twins this puts the mare at a much higher risk so please...if there are twins, let the vet pinch one. You should still end up with one foal and majorly lower the risk of your mare having complications or dying during or after birth.

    Make sure her feed is the best you can get and when in the third trimester, increase her feed as recommended by the vet. Others on here can give great advice when it comes to brands, supplements, etc.

    Get her vaccines when advised by your vet.

    Please please please get her tested for the genetic diseases mentioned above. Also, get the stallion tested! A lethal white foal or LWO is not something you want to have and the other diseases aren't good either.

    I've noticed that while a lot of people on this forum are rude and blunt with differing opinions, most have great advice but sometimes you have to look through the comments you don't like to see them.

    I wish you the best of luck and I'm sure most of us (mainly me) would like to see pictures of your mare and the *maybe* daddy! This is a picture happy forum! Keep us posted!
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        06-03-2013, 12:27 AM
      #25
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    Originally Posted by Serenity    
    I'm not going to kill a baby horse and why does my horse have to be registered? The stallion is registered, I already know that and why can't I breed a rescue?
    Can you post pics of the mare and tell us as much as you think you know about her breeding? Also give some pics of the stallion and a link to his pedigree?

    Anyone who has a stallion on their place can have an OOPS. It's not great and not something to try for but ........it happens. It happened to me. I had a 2 year old filly, not an age I would EVER condone breeding, and my stallion get together because of an accident with an older broodmare. We loaded up the broodie and hauled A$$ to the vet to have her put down and someone, no fingers pointed, left a gate or 2 open. The stallion bred the filly and was back in his pasture before we got home. Never even occurred to me that the breeding had happened. The barn helper found the gates open and closed them and never thought to mention it to me. Come Feb of last year, Mare 1 foals out as scheduled, Mare 2 foals out as scheduled and when we came home from having the newest foal checked out from the vet, I saw a white thing out in the pasture. Went out to see who had been throwing plastic bags around in the pasture and found.....a placenta and....a still wet filly. Fortunately that 2 year old was a great mother. I had bought her to breed to that stallion, but discovered personality and temper flaws that had caused me to put her up for sale, not one I wanted as a breeder. Her filly, that I would have flushed had I had even an inkling that the breeding had occurred, turned out to be the 1 of the 3 that I liked the most and she didn't have any of her mother's character flaws. Go figure! So, I double registered her and sold her as a yearling to a great home.

    I got very lucky. There were all kinds of pitfalls with that breeding because of the mare's age and her temper and the plain fact that she had a few screws loose. She was gorgeous and double registered, but I had decided back when SHE was a yearling that she didn't fit my breeding plans because I breed for conformation and temperament before anything else.

    So, I'm the last person to get on your case about an accidental breeding! Not going to hear it from me, but what I would like to do is find out as much as possible about the 2 horses involved, so that I could maybe give you some good direction.
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        06-03-2013, 02:24 AM
      #26
    Trained
    Serenity it is your decision alone to decide if you want the mare to carry the foal or not.
    It is no crime to allow her to have the foal even if it is not registered.
    Feed the mare more good quality feed as Dreamcathcer has posted in her last trimester. Ensure she has her annual shots 4-6 weeks before foaling to ensure the mare passes on her immunity to the foal. Worm the mare about 4 weeks before the foal is due. If you do all these things you should have a healthy foal. Good luck. Shalom
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        06-03-2013, 03:05 AM
      #27
    Weanling
    I just want to add too that they are asking for pics of your mare and sire because different breeds have some distinguishing characteristics, and some breeds are more susceptible to the genetic diseases mentioned than others, so they could guide you along the way if you needed their advice. Some on this forum are straightforward and down right rude... But it's ONLY because we all have a passion for these animals and want only the best for ALL of them. Don't take any comments personal, the people on this forum will become your very best friends when it gets close to foaling time, and you will rely on them and hang on every word... They've helped me through 3, the first 2 were grade mares that I bought late in gestation, unknowingly , the third is registered and just had her baby on April 15. I bought her when she was 7 months pregnant with a very planned pregnancy.... Anyway, my point is, they have good advice even if you have to wade through the butt chewing first, but when it gets down to business And your in a panic, need advice and ur vets a heavy sleeper, these girls and guys are always around. Good luck with your mare, and if she is pregnant, happy foaling!
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        06-03-2013, 11:33 AM
      #28
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    Originally Posted by Dreamcatcher Arabians    
    Can you post pics of the mare and tell us as much as you think you know about her breeding? Also give some pics of the stallion and a link to his pedigree?

    Anyone who has a stallion on their place can have an OOPS. It's not great and not something to try for but ........it happens. It happened to me. I had a 2 year old filly, not an age I would EVER condone breeding, and my stallion get together because of an accident with an older broodmare. We loaded up the broodie and hauled A$$ to the vet to have her put down and someone, no fingers pointed, left a gate or 2 open. The stallion bred the filly and was back in his pasture before we got home. Never even occurred to me that the breeding had happened. The barn helper found the gates open and closed them and never thought to mention it to me. Come Feb of last year, Mare 1 foals out as scheduled, Mare 2 foals out as scheduled and when we came home from having the newest foal checked out from the vet, I saw a white thing out in the pasture. Went out to see who had been throwing plastic bags around in the pasture and found.....a placenta and....a still wet filly. Fortunately that 2 year old was a great mother. I had bought her to breed to that stallion, but discovered personality and temper flaws that had caused me to put her up for sale, not one I wanted as a breeder. Her filly, that I would have flushed had I had even an inkling that the breeding had occurred, turned out to be the 1 of the 3 that I liked the most and she didn't have any of her mother's character flaws. Go figure! So, I double registered her and sold her as a yearling to a great home.

    I got very lucky. There were all kinds of pitfalls with that breeding because of the mare's age and her temper and the plain fact that she had a few screws loose. She was gorgeous and double registered, but I had decided back when SHE was a yearling that she didn't fit my breeding plans because I breed for conformation and temperament before anything else.

    So, I'm the last person to get on your case about an accidental breeding! Not going to hear it from me, but what I would like to do is find out as much as possible about the 2 horses involved, so that I could maybe give you some good direction.
    Yes oops breedings do happen. Its just one of those things that can happen no matter how hard you try and avoid it.

    However when you "catch" the oops breeding, you know it happened early enough and you know its not a good cross for various reasons(including not knowing if either animal carry genetic diseases) then as a responsible breeder/stallion owner/mare owner you can abort the breeding.

    Now sometimes the cross is a good one and hey you might as well keep the foal even if it is unplanned. But when you know nothing on the mares history, know nothing of her blood lines, know nothing of any genetic flaws she may carry... the responsible thing to do is abort it if you know about it early enough.
         
        06-03-2013, 12:14 PM
      #29
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    Originally Posted by NBEventer    
    Yes oops breedings do happen. Its just one of those things that can happen no matter how hard you try and avoid it.

    However when you "catch" the oops breeding, you know it happened early enough and you know its not a good cross for various reasons(including not knowing if either animal carry genetic diseases) then as a responsible breeder/stallion owner/mare owner you can abort the breeding.

    Now sometimes the cross is a good one and hey you might as well keep the foal even if it is unplanned. But when you know nothing on the mares history, know nothing of her blood lines, know nothing of any genetic flaws she may carry... the responsible thing to do is abort it if you know about it early enough.
    I don't disagree with you, in principle. We don't know her religious upbringing, what you're suggesting may totally be at odds with everything she's been taught. And, it's her mare, she makes the choice. She asked for advice, not opinions so that's what I'm going to give her. She's stated she's going to keep the foal, that's her business and her decision.
         
        06-03-2013, 12:28 PM
      #30
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    Originally Posted by Dreamcatcher Arabians    
    I don't disagree with you, in principle. We don't know her religious upbringing, what you're suggesting may totally be at odds with everything she's been taught. And, it's her mare, she makes the choice. She asked for advice, not opinions so that's what I'm going to give her. She's stated she's going to keep the foal, that's her business and her decision.
    This is true... I tend to forget about different religious beliefs/practices that can be carried over into how you care for animals/livestock.
         

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