As to mls's post: "The OPs post is rambling and all over", I feel that I was just trying to explain the situation that was occuring and covering all points.
As to mls's post:
"There is no leasing through
AQHA. If you are competing a horse or breeding a horse owned by an AQHA member, AQHA needs a copy of the lease to credit points, etc. But the leasing is done through the recorded owner of the horse."---- I agree that leasing is done through the mare's owner, however according to the AQHA Rules Handbook(the following excerpt is from AQHA's 2009 online handbook):
For a lease of a horse to be recognized by AQHA, written
Notice of such lease shall be filed with AQHA, signed by both the
Recorded owner as lessor, and lessee. The notice shall specify the
Effective date of lease and may provide a term no longer than three
Years, at the expiration of which, the lease must be re-recorded to
Remain effective. If the term is intended for a shorter period, it shall
Also provide a termination date. Termination other than expiration
Of lease term may be accomplished by written notice to AQHA,
Specifying the termination date, signed by both lessor and lessee, or
By a properly executed transfer report, which shows a change of ownership
From lessor to lessee, signed by the record owner/lessor. No
Additional fee shall be charged for terminating the lease, whether
Automatic or by subsequent notice thereof.------
I make reference to the first line of the above article," For a lease of a horse to be recognized by AQHA, written
notice of such lease shall be filed with AQHA, signed by both the
Recorded owner as lessor, and lessee". THIS becomes important when time to register the foal in your name as per the same rulebook --
202. REGISTRATION PROCEDURE.
(a) To register a horse with AQHA, the record owner or record
Lessee of the foal’s dam at time of foaling (at time of breeding if an
Embryo transfer foal) is responsible for submitting a properly completed
And signed registration application, a completed and signed
Breeder’s certificate, and the correct registration fee as specified in
Rule 222. In the event a frozen embryo permit is used to register a
Foal, the owner of the permit shall sign the registration application as
The owner at time of foaling.
Each registration application must be completed and signed
By the owner of this foal’s dam at the time of foaling (at time of breeding
If an embryo transfer foal) by the dam’s lessee (if a record of the
Lease is on file with AQHA) or by a person authorized to sign for the
Owner or lessee (if a record of the authorization is on file with AQHA)
For the foal to be eligible for registration. In the event a frozen
Embryo permit is used to register a foal, the owner of the permit shall
Sign the registration application as the owner at time of foaling."
Notice the line in 202(b)--- "by the dam’s lessee (if a record of the
lease is on file with AQHA)".
The lease papers thru AQHA are not for points or whatever, but a little more important, to show ownership of the foal as recognized by the AQHA and to register the foal in your name.
Farmpony84--I did not mention any names for legal reasons, but only the fact of the stud's performance record as I'm not of the greatest faith in AQHA treating the little guy as equal as the big leaguers. Feel free to lock or delete the post if you feel fit.
PS.--I'm not upset with any reply posts on our thread, just looking for a little help(someone that's been there) for our friends, Thank You.