Sorry for the long post, but I am posting this for some friends of ours. Last year our friends got two breedings with a 2 time Top 5 AQHA World Show halter stallion. Both mares were being leased by them and being AI bred. Both mares had problems getting pregnant(requiring multiple attempts), with the end result only 1 getting pregnant. We've heard other mare owners/lessees were also having problems with getting their mares getting concepted by this same stud during the same breeding season. The unbred mare was returned to her owner(s) and the bred mare eventually went back to her owners. Our friends have a lease agreement with the bred mare's owners until 4/30/2010(the foal is due mid-March 09). "Supposedly" this bred mare has twins and the mare owner was all upset that my friends vet did not pickup on this. Anyway, my friends have had nothing but negative responses from the mare owner stating they want the lease papers(AQHA) back and they can't have the foal(s). Contact with the stud owners a week or two back suggested my friends return the lease papers and they'll get the foal(they stated FOAL) and would split the earnings from it's sale. This week our friends got a copy of lease papers from AQHA stating their lease ended 04/30/2009(with their forged signatures on). Our friends have since contacted AQHA and that is an ongoing issue. Since our friends still had another breeding right(the one mare wouldn't take), they were going to see about breeding our mare(this was before the forged lease papers). Possible problem here is that this stud has ongoing testing for EVA through the Gluck institute. The stud's owners recomended our mare "not" get vaccinated for EVA and go through with the breeding.The stud's owners said "our mare" would be a test subject for this stud. My understanding is that if a stud's EVA titers are below 1:4(this stud supposedly has had below 1:4 levels last few tests) and 2 successful breedings with no EVA, can result in a clean bill of health given to the stud. With all that was going on with this current breeding nightmare and our questioning EVA testing(or lack of) we won't breed our mare. So my question is have any of you had mare leasing thru AQHA nightmare storys and did they get resolved, and what if anything helped your case. Thanks for any input
More info: Our friends have no intention with dealing with this stud or it's offspring again. The leased mare with foal was returned per agreement with mare owner(they had her 6 months). This mare also tore our friends barn apart thru cribbing and was a hard feeder(no alfalfa). Of course the mare's owner stated early on this mare was great with no problems/vices(easy keeper). We were upset to hear the stud owner did not want our mare vaccinated(as he suggested to another mare owner last year breeding to their stud). All I've read online states to have your mare(if negative) vaccinated 3 weeks prior to breeding with an EVA positive stud. I don't need my mare in a "testing program" just to validate his stud's "negative to EVA"(just my opinion).
With this supposed twin issue, our friends have offered to bring 2 vets up(this was over a week ago,and the mare is out of state) to check on her,haven't heard from the owner. This was after the mare owner stated she had twins thru palpating(their 1 vet said this can't be done since she's so far along,due in a month) and the stud owner said it was thru ultrasound.Which was it?