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    02-24-2009, 09:19 PM
  #11
Banned
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Originally Posted by Racing07    
The original lease paper filed with the AQHA had a 2010 end date. Last week, our friends got a copy of leases papers from the AQHA stating 2009 end date. That is when they contacted the AQHA. The had contacted the AQHA last November when they were having ongoing problems with the mare owner. Our friends said in the last week conversation with AQHA, that someone(from AQHA) had not "flagged" the November concern. Last week they than contacted the AQHA when they received the lease copy with their forged signatures.

And is there a copy of the original lease floating around with the 2010 date that was originally specified that can be used to compare date and signatures?

The suspicion would appear that somone in the know at AQHA changed it. And then this brings up the obvious question....who actually had possession of the original papers with the 2010 date on it that SENT them in to the AQHA?
     
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    02-24-2009, 10:24 PM
  #12
Foal
I would also wonder who sent it in since our friends still have the original lease agreement ending 2010. They had faxed in the "original" papers to the AQHA and got a statement (contract) back showing they had the lease on mare till 2010. This of course is all before the "updated" lease paper they received last week or so.
     
    02-24-2009, 10:32 PM
  #13
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Originally Posted by Racing07    
I would also wonder who sent it in since our friends still have the original lease agreement ending 2010. They had faxed in the "original" papers to the AQHA and got a statement (contract) back showing they had the lease on mare till 2010. This of course is all before the "updated" lease paper they received last week or so.
If they got a confirmation of the 2010 date from the AQHA then any differences must have come from the mare owners who somehow got AQHA to change the date....or the original mare owners sent in a "corrected" false lease paper with a changed date.

This is a breach of contract by the original mare owners and is sueable by your friends. Contracts can only be changed if all parties to that contract agree to the changed terms. The mare owners are liable in something like this for all the costs incurred by your friends or the foal or foals. Since I highly doubt the foals will be returned ( possession being 9/10 of the law) then all breeding costs both real and punitive should be sued for.
     
    02-24-2009, 11:30 PM
  #14
Foal
Thanks Spyder for replys. Like we said in our original post, we're just looking for info to pass on to our friends and let them decide what they want to do. We'll keep you updated what/if anything the AQHA will do. Thanks again.
     
    02-25-2009, 09:39 AM
  #15
mls
Trained
Quote:
Originally Posted by Racing07    
The original lease paper filed with the AQHA had a 2010 end date. Last week, our friends got a copy of leases papers from the AQHA stating 2009 end date. That is when they contacted the AQHA. The had contacted the AQHA last November when they were having ongoing problems with the mare owner. Our friends said in the last week conversation with AQHA, that someone(from AQHA) had not "flagged" the November concern. Last week they than contacted the AQHA when they received the lease copy with their forged signatures.
YES - FILED with AQHA to prove the lease but AQHA does not control the lease. Therefore the lease is not THROUGH AQHA.
     
    02-25-2009, 08:37 PM
  #16
Foal
Mls-I'm not looking for a battle over terminology, or I'm the last one to get a dig in. A lease thru a mare owner that is not going to be an AQHA registration, sure it really doesn't matter. However, The lease agreement HAS TO GO THRU THE AQHA to "PROVE" ownership of the foal and to be able to register the foal in your name and earn points,etc as you had already stated. Kinda of important, don't you think? Control and through are not the same. Filing the lease report with the AQHA is going through their channels to keep the lease "recognized" by the AQHA, enough said.
     
    03-02-2009, 11:48 AM
  #17
Foal
That's weird that AQHA didn't catch the difference on that file between the faxed lease and then received something totally different in the hard copy.
Sounds like your friends have quite the fight in front of them-and at a certain point you really only can feel 1 foal because they are too big. Ultrasounding is ineffective after 4-5 months because, again, the foal is too big.
     
    03-03-2009, 12:15 AM
  #18
Foal
Thanks for your reply alldun,
Yes, our friends vets both couldn't figure out the whole palpating/ultrasound thing so late in the pregnancy. Latest news from our friends(last week) said the stud owner contacted them and said the "one twin" died and they were putting the mare on Regumate and hoping to go full term(she's due in two weeks). It's getting stranger all the time. They're still waiting for a reply from AQHA though.
     
    03-03-2009, 02:02 AM
  #19
Yearling
Thats sad that one of the twins died :( but I suppose twins can be really difficult for horses...
     
    03-03-2009, 05:41 AM
  #20
Foal
Sounds to me like the owners of the mare wanted a foal.. minus the breeding expenses etc.. dodgyyy
     

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