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  • Freisian sire crossed with quarterhorse dam
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    01-25-2012, 10:03 PM
  #11
Trained
Here is my opinion. Take it for what it is worth. You want to breed simply because you love your horse. Pretty much all of us think our horse is sweet, smart, etc...yadayada. What would be her accomplishments? What would a Fresian add to her conformation, abilities to do the discipline you are hoping for with the foal.....etc. I have a feeling you see the pretty black horsey and want one like that.

Grade horses are great. I have 2, so I have nothing against them. However-breeding them is a total crap shoot. You may get something totally hideous in conformation and looks that gets all the worst traits of its parents. Or, they can be spectacular. You just don't know, and with the glut of horses right now why not just get yourself one you like. It will be cheaper and more predictable than breeding one.

I would also suggest you lose the defensiveness that I read in your last post or 2-you will most likely be flamed here for wanting to be nothing more than a back yard breeder.
     
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    01-25-2012, 10:05 PM
  #12
Green Broke
It's impossible to make an educated comment when all we have to go on is an un-pictured stallion and a non-conformation picture of the mare.

For all we know, the stallion could be the worst conformed Friesian to ever set foot on Earth and it wouldn't be a good idea to breed anything to it!
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    01-25-2012, 10:08 PM
  #13
Trained
They are two VERY different breeds, that generally, would not compliment each other. If you want something different, why not buy it rather than breed and hope for the best?
I would also be concerned that the stud owner is willing to put his stud over your mare, and that they are so open about all of the 'odd' breedings they have done.
Most genuine stud owners, will only breed to approved mare that will make their stud look good as a sire.
     
    01-25-2012, 10:10 PM
  #14
Green Broke
I personally wouldn't do it...I'm also a firm believer in not breeding horses because "It's my horse, she's great, I love her and want a piece of her." That is not a good idea at all and no reason to breed. Second, the foal would be grade, while that isn't terrible it isn't exactly good either...There are just way too many horses out there that need homes and people are giving these horses away now. Why?? Because of over population and over breeding.

Say you breed the pair..What exactly are your plans with the foal? Do you have everything necessary for a pregnant mare and soon a foal? Are you financially capable of paying numerous vet bills? Are you going to be able to keep up with the mares well being and health while pregnant? A pregnant mare have different and more tedious needs/care than just a regular mare. Do you have enough pasture/area for separating the two when it comes time to wean the foal? If it's a colt are you going to be able to geld him?...Lastly are you prepared to risk the life of your mare? And the foals life? It is VERY possible they BOTH can die during foaling. If the mare dies are you willing and able to be constantly with it to feed it and take care of it? Since it's a grade foal it won't have near as much value as a registered foal..What if something happens and you have to sell the foal? Producing grade horses is just breeding for the kill pens. When breeding you want to give the foal the absolute BEST chance at a good life, with or without you.

I've said it many many times on the forum..Breeding horses should be left to the breeders. If you are truly set on having a foal..look around you, there are soooo many young horses that need homes.

I have an appendix QH/TB mare, and she is my best horse. The QH and TB breed compliment eachother and the different traits blend well...I just don't see where the two breeds you are wanting to mix, who are SO vastly different, will produce a nice foal.
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    01-25-2012, 10:20 PM
  #15
QOS
Green Broke
It is hard to say without pictures of both. My friend does have a lovely Friesian/Morgan cross. Hershey is a wonderful guy that she events on. I have never seen Hershey's Friesian sire but I have seen his dam, the Morgan, many times.

He is a lovely horse.
     
    01-25-2012, 10:21 PM
  #16
Yearling
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kayty    
They are two VERY different breeds, that generally, would not compliment each other. If you want something different, why not buy it rather than breed and hope for the best?
I would also be concerned that the stud owner is willing to put his stud over your mare, and that they are so open about all of the 'odd' breedings they have done.
Most genuine stud owners, will only breed to approved mare that will make their stud look good as a sire.
posters are saying they wouldn't compliment each other but not say why they wouldn't, that's not a question I can answer can anyone say why?
     
    01-25-2012, 10:25 PM
  #17
Yearling
I'm going to agree with everyone else, and say don't do it. If you really want a cross, go with something that is a little more closer to the same class as your mare. Thoroughbred, Saddlebred, Paint, Warmblood maybe.

And... for giggles. XD




This horse doesn't look quiet right to me...


I do not believe they would compliment each other due to one is a draft and the other stock. QHs are just to lean for me to be able to picture a cross coming out well porportioned and conformed.
     
    01-25-2012, 10:26 PM
  #18
Trained
A quarters horse built to have very solid quarters, flat, short paces etc.
A friesian is a cart horse. Built uphill, with very high stepping action.
They are very, VERY different horses.
If you're going to breed, cross two horses that are fairly similar in basic conformation, and with conformational features that will compliment each other.
     
    01-25-2012, 10:27 PM
  #19
Yearling
I have a QH that is an angel... so a few years ago tried to decide whether to breed her to a gaited stud, so as to get a gaited horse eventually. My idea was that I'd raise up the baby and have a replacement horse ready to ride by the time my QH mare was retired.

Well, I was advised that the odds were stacked against getting all the attributes I wanted - attitude, looks, conformation, gaitedness, etc. In fact, I had the same high odds of only getting all of the attributes I didn't want -- mismatched conformation, not gaited, or choppy gaits, clonky head from gaited horse bloodlines, etc. If you knew what types of babies the Friesian threw, and what their dams looked like, and also had an idea of what your mare produced when crossed with certain types of sires, you might have an guesstimate of what you could expect. In my mare's case, she was bred by different owners and always threw her pretty head and attitude, but the conformation and color and coat came from whatever stud she was bred to. It really depends on what type of QH bloodlines and sire prepotency you're working with. If that's what you want, I would suggest looking around and buying that cross - you get to pick sex, color, and make sure the combo of attributes is what you're looking for.
     
    01-25-2012, 10:31 PM
  #20
Green Broke
Quote:
Originally Posted by cmarie    
posters are saying they wouldn't compliment each other but not say why they wouldn't, that's not a question I can answer can anyone say why?
Because the breeds are sooo vastly different. They are bred for different traits, abilities, and disciplines..


The biggest point being..You want to breed horses that compliment each other and set up the best chance for a well conformed and nice foal. Breeding isn't just putting a mare and stud together and hoping for the best...It's a studied art that should be left to breeders...Not a back yard breeder..Especially not mixing two completely different breeds and not having a clue as to what you'll end up with.
     

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