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Outside opinions on stud for my mare!

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I am so beyond excited! I've been trying to breed my Z baby for three years! I wanted a sport horse, so I was breeding her to a big Waps Spot horse. But then decided I wanted a working/ranch horse. I looked for 2 and a half years to find the one I'm looking at now! And everything is already lined up, and I really can't back out now. My mare, Impulsive Lucy, is 12. The last year you are supposed to breed a maiden mare. Plus, her injuries from birth are starting to catch up on her, she's already retired and she only showed for 2 years heavy. She's out of Impulsive Zipper, champion pleasure horse on the Appaloosa circuit.
The horse I'm looking to breed her too is a registered Quarter Horse, from Oklahoma. It is a acceptable breeding, even though I'm crossing breeds, I already checked! I can't remember his lines at the moment (Darn short term memory issues!) But he's owned by a friend of mine down the road. I see him every week at least twice a week. He's built AMAZINGLY! I fell in love with him! Teddy bear ears, BIG soft eye. Can't even tell he's a stud! He's a soft flea bitten grey color. No arthritis issues, lamnitis, back problems. He's as sound as my 4 year old at 28!

I haven't had much of a outside look on this whole breeding though, and thought I could see what you guys thought of him since everyone on here has had amazing insight for me so far on other things! So what colors you might think it could produce? Tips for breeding with maiden mares? Good idea/Bad idea?

I only have pictures of my mare, as I am not on my home computer.. I will add some tomorrow of the stud!

Yes, I know her hindend muscles are lacking in these photos.. I got into an accident and was unable to work her like I normally do!

Thanks ahead of time for any tips/ ideas/ thoughts!
 

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Pictures of the stud would be very helpful. No horse is built 100% perfectly so it is good to try and match a stud that can compliment your mare as well as have a chance of altering any flaws she may pass onto the foal.
Do you know much about the stud's breeding background and whether or not he is consistent with passing on his grey gene?
If he is carrying two then the foal will grey and there is no way of telling how as all horses grey differently and at different rates.
It will also help to know what the stud's original base color was.
 
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Two of his babys were at his barn. One was a dapple grey, chestnut mom. And the other was a flashy chestnut with bright gold shading- full brother to the grey.

I looked for a stud with more slope to his shoulder that my mare is lacking, in hopes he will pass it on to his baby!
 
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I wish you good luck with the breeding.
the only thing I question is the statement that breeding a maiden mare at 12 should be the last year to do it.
Plenty of mares are bred after 12 for the first time with no complications. IMO you have a few more years to worry about her age. Shalom
 
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A breeding tip would be to test for all genetic diseases known to the breeds, both in appaloosa and quarter horse. Must be done before breeding to make sure they are okay to breed without a 25% chance of a foal effected by a disease you could've tested the parents for. Better educates you on your choices in breeding so you don't breed 2 carriers of some genetic disease. ;)
 
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Thank you guys for your posts!!
I will most definitely look into the genetic diseases in more detail, as well as the frame/OLWS! I have an Impressive bred appy who I swear is lacking one side of his brain at times. He tested HYPP N/P. But he's a rescue, so that bad breeding is not on me ;)
I know you can breed a maiden mare later than that, I've heard of it being done. But my vet suggested I do NOT try it any later due to her injury to her neck starting to bother her.
As for gogaited's comment. Yeah it might be counterproductive *shrugs* but I've never met a stud that you could leave in the pasture with mares, and have him not try to breed them. Nor have I met a stud who had this nice of an overall temperamet.
Once again, THANK YOU!!
 
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As for gogaited's comment. Yeah it might be counterproductive *shrugs* but I've never met a stud that you could leave in the pasture with mares, and have him not try to breed them. Nor have I met a stud who had this nice of an overall temperamet.
Once again, THANK YOU!!
It's not only counterproductive, but as I mentioned in your other thread, breeding grey into Appys is frowned upon and is a highly discouraged practice. Breeding her to a grey will certainly not endear you to Appy folks, and if her foal is grey it will have less value than a non grey foal would have, as it would be disqualified as breeding stock by the majority of Appy folks, despite the Impusive Zipper line...
 
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I understand why many people want to breed their own mares, so i wont get into that, though i do believe, from personal experience, that you will have a much better chance of getting what you want if you buy.
That being said, if you are set on this guy, which it sounds like you are, dont bother asking us about it lol because as you have seen, many will advise you against it, mainly because he is grey.
First, determine what you wish to do with this foal and then decide. If you want it to have a show career, go with a different stud.
The fact that he can seemingly be out in a field and not breed mares could simply be because he is old and his hormones are no longer raging. Many studs mellow down with age, especially if they are kept in contact with other horses.
If he were kept like many studs his whole life (segregated completely and only able to interact with other horses when breeding) i can guarentee his behavior would be different.
 
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I'm curious exactly what you mean by "sport horse". When I think sport horse in the western sense, I picture horses that are good at reining, cutting, ranch work, etc. You know, performance horses.

What are your goals for the baby?
Sport horse as in something like a hunter/jumper. Tall, lanky, leggy.
I really found a love for reining, which is what I want to use this baby for. Though I don't want a 14.2 hand horse. Which is why I thought about this horse who stands 15.1 just like my mare. And he was cutting horse bred.
 
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Don't take offense to this, but if you are looking for a reining prospect, I would likely not choose your mare to breed. She is really upright through her shoulder and may be through her pasterns as well, which would greatly limit her front end mobility.

Granted, the potential foal could probably do some reining, but they may not move well enough to be competative at much more than low levels.
 
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Don't take offense to this, but if you are looking for a reining prospect, I would likely not choose your mare to breed. She is really upright through her shoulder and may be through her pasterns as well, which would greatly limit her front end mobility.

Granted, the potential foal could probably do some reining, but they may not move well enough to be competative at much more than low levels.
I don't find it offensive! That's the kindof tips/thoughts I was looking for! YES Miss Lucy is upright through her shoulder and pasterns, could a breeding to a guy with a really nice shoulder/pasterns fix that?

My mare has a big backend (When worked..) and massive drive, it kills me everytime were cantering because she has no shock absorbtion!
 
#17 ·
It would be a pure crapshoot as to whether the foal would get it or not. Of course, the odds would be decreased by breeding to a stud with a good shoulder and front legs, but there's still the good possibility that the foal would end up just like her in the front end.

That's why I feel strongly that a person should breed 2 horses that are prime examples of what they want the foal to be.
 
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There are no stallions that can "correct" every flaw a mare has. You would need to see a lot of his offspring from different types of mares to have a clue about what type of foals he throws and what he passes on to them.
If you are looking for a reining prospect then it would be better to buy one.
Not saying you wouldnt get one with your mare but there is that chance you wont. Shalom
 
#21 ·
If you are determined to breed i would not take any chances. with breeding to just any stallion, no matter his bloodlines. Breed to a stud that has proven himself in reining and even then you are still taking a gamble but the choice is yours.
No matter the outcome, make sure you turn that foal into something valuable so that he doesnt end up in the meat house if things take a turn down the road and you have to sell for any unfortunate reason.
 
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