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post #1 of 10 Old 08-17-2010, 01:39 AM Thread Starter
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Paint mare, don't know much about her. Need help.

Hi, I have my paint mare, who was previously a broodmare at a ranch, no, I don't plan on breeding her, I just don't know much about her breeding/where she came from... I know her grandsire is Rappin Ringo. But the reason they never showed her is because when she was younger they gave her a vaccination and she was allergic and fell on the concrete, after that, her eye was well, messed up and it's hard to explain. So they couldn't show her. Even though she is a BEAUTY.. I got her because they couldnt fit her medical needs and they said to me she was a DEAD broke horse. Well, she wasnt, but i'd like to know more about my mare's pedigree. I have her papers, they tell me her bloodlines, but, I have tried to e-mail and call them (breeders), but the only one I could get a hold of was her sire's owner, he sent me picture's of her father, and he didn't remember much of Rae or her mother, which, like the father was a sorrel overo(mother). So, any tips on finding more about my Paint's bloodlines? Anything you have tried and it worked? And, I know Rappin Ringo is a foundation-bred stud, and his father is Reynolds Rap, son of Sonny Dee Bar.

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post #2 of 10 Old 08-17-2010, 01:50 AM
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if you have the money go to the vet tell them what you know about her sire and grandsire they can do a dna test to find out everything. Or if you have her papers then you can go to equineonline.com or allbreedpedigree.com type it in there and see what comes up if nothing then youll be done for some serious research
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post #3 of 10 Old 08-17-2010, 10:33 AM
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if you have the money go to the vet tell them what you know about her sire and grandsire they can do a dna test to find out everything.
I don't believe that is technically correct.

Someone please correct me if I am wrong, but to my understanding, dna testing in horses is not the magic wand people seem to think it it. It is to match profiles only - ie. To confirm parentage of horses in question - in which case foal, sire, and dam must all have profiles taken to match against. You can not prove anything beyond 1st gen relatives from DNA typing, I was led to believe.

To the OP, Rappin Ringo is listed on allbreed, here is a link to his pedigree:

http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/rappin+ringo


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You're correct, Indy. DNA typing is to prove parentage, not somehow figure out who the parents were.

Also as you stated, in order to prove parentage, all of the animals would had to have been DNA typed at some point, in order to match the child to the parents.

OP, if you have her registration papers, they should indicate who her parents were. If you want more information on them, contact the registry. The registry may not have anything on them though, because if they're all ranch bred horses there's no guarantee they ever did anything other than work.

What's so important about her bloodlines? You already know what they are, so what exactly is it that you want to know?
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post #5 of 10 Old 08-17-2010, 12:22 PM
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Pedigree only really matters if you're going to breed the horse.

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I can relate to the OP for wondering, it's not necessarily that you need to know these things but there's just curiosity there.
There isn't always much you can do though. I'd try checking out All Breed Pedigree (sometimes information or a photo has been entered about a horse) and just Googling the registered names (in quotes to keep from getting a million unrelated results) and you might find information like show results, or maybe even a website where the horse is/was located if you're lucky.
One thing I also like to do when I can is find full- and half-brothers and sisters and see what they're up to, if they've been shown successfully and stuff like that. On APB if you right click a name it can list the progeny.

Good luck!
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I guess I don't understand what info you are looking for? You have the bloodlines, are you looking for showing records? Temperament?

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I guess I don't understand what info you are looking for? You have the bloodlines, are you looking for showing records? Temperament?
Well, yeah, that's pretty much it. Temperament too, specially her mom.

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I can relate to the OP for wondering, it's not necessarily that you need to know these things but there's just curiosity there.
There isn't always much you can do though. I'd try checking out All Breed Pedigree (sometimes information or a photo has been entered about a horse) and just Googling the registered names (in quotes to keep from getting a million unrelated results) and you might find information like show results, or maybe even a website where the horse is/was located if you're lucky.
One thing I also like to do when I can is find full- and half-brothers and sisters and see what they're up to, if they've been shown successfully and stuff like that. On APB if you right click a name it can list the progeny.

Good luck!
Im just curious, I have no intentions of breeding her actually, just curious to see if I can find more than I already know.

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You're correct, Indy. DNA typing is to prove parentage, not somehow figure out who the parents were.

Also as you stated, in order to prove parentage, all of the animals would had to have been DNA typed at some point, in order to match the child to the parents.

OP, if you have her registration papers, they should indicate who her parents were. If you want more information on them, contact the registry. The registry may not have anything on them though, because if they're all ranch bred horses there's no guarantee they ever did anything other than work.

What's so important about her bloodlines? You already know what they are, so what exactly is it that you want to know?

Thanks! I'll do that! But, no, she was bought from breeders, and bought to work/be a broodmare on the ranch.

And, like I said, just curious.

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