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    12-03-2008, 10:05 AM
Paranoid Horse mommy needs help please!

Hi everyone,

As the title says, I am a paranoid horse mommy, first time breeder to boot and I need your help and advice please.

I bought my little girl years ago and I have always dreamed of breeding her to a gorgeous stallion and producing my very own little showjumping foal...

So after YEARS of searching, I finally found THE stallion for my mare. So I box my mare and off we go to the AI clinic for her first, exploratory scan. Turns out she was in FULL oestrus that very day and had a huge follicle and was about to ovulate! The stallion was brought in and collected within the hour and gave a VERY good sample (Stallion has an excellent fertility record by the way) and again, the vet was very happy.

So, two weeks of nail-biting pass by and Velvet went in for her second scan to confirm that she was in foal...but DISASTER! She WASN'T...even the vet was really surprised because she was so PRIME when she was bred.

So she was inseminated again (Little vixen was in heat AGAIN!) right there and then. The vet washed her and caslicked her (her vulva was a bit soft apparently) and she went home. Two days later she went back so that they could make sure she had responded to the injection and had ovulated. She had, which was really great news!!!

The vet said that there may be a number of reasons for her not being pregnant the first time:

1. She DID conceive but the embryo was not viable and was reabsorbed (which is just bad luck he said)
2. She got air and/or dirt in her womb due to vulva being soft (hopefully prevented by caslicking her this time...)
3. She did not respond to the injection and did not ovulated (which may have happened but she was CONFIRMED to have ovulated second time)

I guess I am just feeling paranoid and worried about my baby and her baby...Would just like your input/support please. Hehehe
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    12-03-2008, 05:21 PM
Just calm down!!! Lol. Just make sure you are giving her the proper amount of feed and that she still gets a good dose of exercise. The less stress she has the better for the both of them (mommy and baby).

For planning ahead do you have a good place for her to foal out? And then the fencing will have to be good for the foal as well. The little buggers can find the smallest gap and get out.

You will do fine though. And if you have any questions throughout her pregnancy there are a few people on here that know their stuff. My mare has had two foals with me and everything worked out for her. The worst part is the
    12-04-2008, 02:10 AM
Thanks, I know I am just stressing too much! Lol

She is in very good condition (not fat, just nice) ... All the other stuff, where to keep foal, what to do with foal after weaning, foal and mare nutrition etc have all been taken care of, now she just needs to fall pregnant! Lol
    12-09-2008, 04:02 AM
Hay what stallion did you use?
    12-09-2008, 03:48 PM
Quartz D'Eclipse :) (He has EXTREMELY good fertility record so I know its not
    12-09-2008, 04:57 PM
So she was inseminated again (Little vixen was in heat AGAIN!) right there and then. The vet washed her and caslicked her (her vulva was a bit soft apparently) and she went home. Two days later she went back so that they could make sure she had responded to the injection and had ovulated. She had, which was really great news!!!

If she was ovulating, why was she injected? Or do you mean inseminated?

Hopefully she's pregnant but if she isn't you might consider that a mare can be 'ripe and ready' to spring the egg (so to speak) but can delay the jump for anything upto 3-4 days! I speak from personal experience! This means that if you inseminate only the once on the supposed ovulating day 1 and the mare actually ovulates on day 3 ... the sperm is no longer viable (fresh sperm is 48 hours viable).
Also ... if a mare is 'examined' at a critical time when the egg is nearly ready to 'jump' but not just net and the vet 'actives' it by touching the region whereby the egg actually DOES 'jump' ... it is not viable!!! ... because it didnot 'jump' naturally. Although it may appear that the ovulation has occurred right at the moment of examination ... if it doesn't happen naturally the egg is not viable and will not 'take' no matter how close to ovulation it was. An experience reproduction HORSE vet should know this.

Also please note that mare that are injected to come into ovulation and do not take on the first try, will usually not take at all that breeding season. Their hormonal housekeeping has been totally messed up and Mother Nature has a way of getting back her own by refusing to cooperate for the rest of the season.

I have 30 years of breeding experience and have all types of mares with respect to getting in foal and have come to the conclusion that as natural a process as possible will give the best odds on a pregnancy and a stress-free mare.
    12-10-2008, 02:26 AM
Yeah I had a disaster of a time breeding my mare.
We had her confirmed in foal to Weltmeyer after breeding to another stallion hadn't worked 3 times. Then a bug went through the barn (she never showed symptoms) and no one told us so we couldn't get her isolated in time and she reabsorbed the foal.
Caslicking is a super idea, especially for first time mares. Did you get her tested for endometritis because that may have also been why she didn't catch the first time.
Just make sure that you get her checked regularly, keep her deworming/shots schedule going according to your vets recommendations, keep her fed properly (talk to an equine nutritionist) and keep her exercising. Also isolate her immediately from horses showing any illness.
And don't count your eggs before they hatch. The chances of your mare delivering a healthy foal complication free are slim.
    12-10-2008, 04:55 AM
After inseminating her, they gave her an injection (the name escapes me) to MAKE her ovulate...apparently this is common practice... She then went back in two days to make sure she had responded to the injection and had ovulated...she had. :)

Two more sleeps and counting...
    12-11-2008, 03:54 PM
Actually it is NOT common practise!
It is however used alot by vets and owners that can't be bother waiting for nature to take its course!
It is an hormonal injection that forces the ovulation into overdrive so that insemination can take place in a shorter time span. It is however! Given prior to insemination not after as there is no garantee that the ovulation will take place within the 48 hours which is the time span on viable sperm (fresh).
    12-12-2008, 02:13 PM
See Mommy... all this worrrying for not. She's preggo now!!! Congradulations!!!

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