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post #21 of 179 Old 04-08-2011, 02:31 PM
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Not only that Zeke, what happens when you go to college? There are major life changes that can happen.

It sounds like you are young. You have many years ahead of you. What makes you think that you will never own another horse?
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post #22 of 179 Old 04-08-2011, 02:40 PM
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If your parents will only let you have one horse , it is likely that they cannot afford more than one - so how is it that you think they can afford the associated costs of a foal.

The outlay for a foal over the span of its growing years is , generally speaking , much greater than that of an adult.

Have you also taken into consideration the possible damage to your mare. Are you prepared to loose her should things go pear shaped? Are you prepared for your foal to go to slaughter if you can no longer afford him (somthing that you need to be able to do on your own , IMO , before your breed , so you need your own income NOT your parents) because breeding your mare to a fugly stallion with bad conformation and lack of anything of note in his carreer in his chosen field is basically signing a possible death warrent on your potential foals head. If you at the very least choose a nice stallion , registered , and favouribly done something of note then your foal will at least have the possibility of being registered , will have favorable parentage on at least one side , and as such , will be more appealing to a buyers market should things go wrong.

Also , by breeding to a shoddy stallion you are CHOOSING to set your foal up with physical issues that s/he will carry for life which will make it all the more difficult for him to excel in a job. Why would you inflict that on the foal your so desparate for? if it is your 'greatist joy' to breed your mare , than you should at least do her the common decency of finding her a reputable stallion - not breeding her to anything with testicles that should walk past her fence....

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post #23 of 179 Old 04-08-2011, 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Zeke View Post
If you are young enough that you need your parents support to own a horse, that likely means you have a lifetime to find a nice mare to breed in the future. What makes you think that since your parents will only allow you to own one horse they will also pay to support the foal?

Many of the posters who posted here were trying to be constructive by telling you your mare, and those studs, are not breeding quality. Not all were trying to be insulting, just trying to prevent the production of poorly conformed horses when so many out there already need homes.
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very well said..

OP- you do sound very young and you do have alot to consider..your age, your experience, you financial ability to support a prego mare and a foal once she does have it..what if there are complications? How would you manage feed, minerals, supplements, care for the mare that takes money? what if she rejects the foal? are you going to be able to stay home from school to feed it VERY frequently, do you have the knoqledge to raise a foal on your own? do you have somewhere to keep the foal and mom isolated from other horses?
Before even breeding a mare there are TONS of things to consider..And breeding to anything that isn't quailty won't be very good..Now don't get me wrong..I have nothing against grade horses, but just because you like him isn't going to make him worth anything..Pretty doesn't mean brains and a nice horse..and if the stallion is unproven for ANYTHING you don't have any idea what your foal is going to be like..Breeding a horse is something that requires alot of prep work, financial support, and before hand knowledge of what you're going to have tp deal with once you have a foal on your hands...

I could go on and on but. I'm at work and have to get back to my job..I'll keep incheck with this though..

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post #24 of 179 Old 04-08-2011, 03:01 PM
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I agree with DrumRunner, Smrobs, and everyone else about the breeding..

You're young, and you don't know what will happen as you get older and leave your parents. What if you/your parents can't afford to care for the baby, and he gets sold.. the market is pretty crappy right now for well-bred, registered, broke horses, so the foal wouldn't have a fair shot of getting a good home. Plus, I can tell you right now I'm barely making it working full time paying for my one horses board/feed/vet bills/farrier plus my cell/car etc. and I still live at home! If you really want a horse to replace your mare in the future, my best advice is to work hard and put away as much money as you can. Then you can afford to buy and hopefully assume total responsibility of your own horse without counting on your parents.

i have to say that i love the appy's coloring, and he would be better off as a flashy gelding!
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post #25 of 179 Old 04-08-2011, 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Sowel View Post
Well thank you for nothing.

This is likely the only horse I'll ever have (thanks to my parents) and breeding her will be my greatest joy. And unless I die, the foal will not be sold.

I has hoping for some construtive critisisum telling my whitch stallion would result in the best foal but I see I was wrong.
If your parents won't allow you to have another horse, why would they allow you to have a foal? After all, the foal will be another horse. Do they know and approve of your plans to breed your mare? Just wondering.
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post #26 of 179 Old 04-08-2011, 09:43 PM
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I understand you wanting to breed your mare. When I was younger I wanted to do the same thing if I ever got a mare. I wanted a cute baby to keep forever. However, I joined this forum, started researching lots and by the time I got my first mare (last year) I had decided I was NOT going to be breeding! She is a 19 year old maiden mare, unregistered (technically as her papers are lost), has fine conformation, but nothing outstanding, and I don't have the money for potential huge vet bills! Also remember that your mare could have complications and potentially both her and the foal could die. Are you prepared for that possibility?

I do plan on breeding some day however. With a different mare of great confo, registered, find a stallion that will compliment her and have the money, facilities and time for anything that could come up as a result.

Please don't take the opinions and advice wrong. We want to help - we may sound harsh, but it is horrible how many horses go to slaughter because so many people are breeding mediocre horses. Please, do some research, keep learning on this forum and you will have a wonderful future with horses!
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^^Exactly, there is a member here who is very experienced with breeding that just lost both the foal and the mare in spite of a vet's best efforts.

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Yes, thank you Zeke
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post #29 of 179 Old 04-09-2011, 11:50 AM
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MY horses are all registered now but what about someone who can't afford registered horses (in the beginning of their horse carriers) that wants to improve what they have for riding or possibly for a childs or kids horse? I was in that situation as a kid luckily my parents bred a few of our ponies to bigger horses that gave us 1/2 Arab registered babies who grew up were trained to ride (by us under my mothers supervision) and when we sold them cause we outgrew them we were able to get into registered Arabs. i'm saying that we slowly improved what we had and worked up the ladder until we could afford to buy registered horses. and i think, no i KNOW, wed never have been able to go straight out and purchase a 1000. dollar horse if it wasn't for the way we moved up. I'm just saying that not everyone has a fortune to spend on horses and trying to better what you have (I mean isn't that what we all do with our foals) does not seem like a killing offence to me....

hmmm there is obviously something i missed here.... posts i missed ore something cause i'm totally lost in this conversation.....

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post #30 of 179 Old 04-09-2011, 12:29 PM
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I did it some what the same way although I started with registered horses. I have no out of pocket money into any of my horses that I have now. So it can be done.

The problem with the agreement of using unregistered horse is that you will NEVER get your investment back. You are better off taking the money it cost to breed the mare and the money it cost to raise the foal until is was 2 and then the money it cost to keep the horse until it is trained and go out and buy you a nice registered horse.

If you want to have a young horse and train one up and sell it then go and buy a coming 2yo. You can find a nice even registered gelding for under $500 easy. They are not the best but they would be most likely just as nice as anything you are going to get out of this cross or most crosses like this. You cut out the cost of the first 2 years which you are now a head of the game.

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