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    04-05-2010, 11:11 PM
  #21
Showing
Thank you to PAHunterRider and HunterBreeder411 for saying what I wanted to but couldn't figure out how to word regarding the jump that is ideal in the hunter ring. NE, while you may see flatter jumps winning here and there, I can assure you that it is not the norm :)

Popeye K is a lovely stallion, with a lovely bouncy, round jump:

     
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    04-06-2010, 03:41 PM
  #22
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by NittanyEquestrian    
A horse with a truly ROUND jump never wins in hunters as they chip and then over jump to get an actually visually round jump...

Um, could you expound on that a little? I"m thinking you're using the word "Round" differently then how other people would.

Thanks for posting that video JDI! Lovely bouncy round jump is right!
     
    04-06-2010, 08:57 PM
  #23
Trained
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Originally Posted by JustDressageIt    
Thank you to PAHunterRider and HunterBreeder411 for saying what I wanted to but couldn't figure out how to word regarding the jump that is ideal in the hunter ring. NE, while you may see flatter jumps winning here and there, I can assure you that it is not the norm :)

Popeye K is a lovely stallion, with a lovely bouncy, round jump:

YouTube - Popeye K

Ditto. Lovely video too!

A hunter horse and an eq horse are as different as a hunter and a jumper. Popeye K is not an eq horse.
     
    04-07-2010, 09:59 AM
  #24
Weanling
My trainer has 2 of his babies on the ground for sale right now. PM me for more information. We're in central PA, and she could tell you anything and everything you could want to know about the temperaments, abilities, etc etc.
     
    04-27-2010, 04:23 PM
  #25
Weanling
HAHAHA I just realized my trainer has a Popeye K baby! I'm silly :P
     
    04-27-2010, 06:43 PM
  #26
Green Broke
Nittany, I believe you're completely confusing where the bascule happens. ALL horses "flatten" at the peak of the jump, regardless of height or disicipline:





Regardless of height, that looks like ANY horse will look when they've reached the point of their body being completely level with that of the jump. The bascule is what's happening before the horse reaches that point, so posting a photo of a hunter that has already concluded the apex of his jump is a little misleading.

And it also goes without saying that a bascule also tends to be in proportion to the jump as well - unless a horse is over jumping a hunter jump, he's never going to look like the Grand Prix jumper. Hunter fences tend to be much smaller, so you're simply not going to see the massive apex you do in GP jumpers due to sheer size of the fence.

Having a round jump doesn't means a horse NEEDS to look like this:



I don't know how you can call something like this "flat":



THIS is flat:




     
    04-27-2010, 11:52 PM
  #27
Yearling
I think my explanations were confusing not that my thinking was confused. I was talking in relation to the horse that she was thinking about leasing and what I thought she would be doing with it to begin with which I assumed was more geared toward Eq at hunter shows rather than actual "hunter" type classes. Then when I tried to explain it got a little confusing.

My comment was that the hunter horses I've seen lately didn't truly round, just picked up their knees really nice and cleared the fence. I mostly only saw the amateur, young rider and green horse classes at the last show I attended but all theoretically should be judged to the same standard, right? I realize that height and things make a difference but I generalized where I probably shouldn't have.

In the hunter shows I've seen lately a horse that really rounds and bascules will clear the jump higher and didn't appear to be placing as high as those that jump cleanly but without at lot of "extra" arch especially in the lower heights. If that is not the norm across the country then so be it, I don't follow hunters across the country.

Here's an example of a horse that I think jumps flat and is being advertised as an accomplished winner in hunter classes.

ANOTHER FAVOR“Riley Jane” is a 1995, 16 hand, Thoroughbred / Quarter Horse, chestnut mare. She has won numerous show and year end awards. She is a great teacher, talented jumper, automatic lead changer, and good mover. She is sadly outgrown and looking to teach her next rider.
     
    07-18-2010, 10:46 PM
  #28
Foal
I'm out of my league with the styles of jumping, but as far as Popeye K babies go, we just purchased one. The ad said that she had a temperment of 1, which I didn't belive till we saw her. She is the sweetest horse I've ever seen. Only had her a few weeks, so we'll see how she does.
     

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