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        02-16-2014, 08:06 PM
      #41
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    I agree that a Friesian would likely not be the best cross for her - they have a tendency to pass on heads that can look rather large and plain on other breeds as well as not being the best for getting a horse for the jumping ring
    A well built TB would give you more height and all round athletic ability
    If you aren't worried about getting a taller horse I would also consider a Welsh section D cob if you wanted something with more body that would jump
         
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        02-16-2014, 09:51 PM
      #42
    Weanling
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    I agree that a Friesian would likely not be the best cross for her - they have a tendency to pass on heads that can look rather large and plain on other breeds as well as not being the best for getting a horse for the jumping ring
    A well built TB would give you more height and all round athletic ability
    If you aren't worried about getting a taller horse I would also consider a Welsh section D cob if you wanted something with more body that would jump
    If I breed her, I want to try to make sure the baby hits horse size. I am not interested in a pony at all. I am almost considering just keeping an eye on craigslist and equinenow for anything under 8 years old, if it has the build I like, and color. And if it was out of state paying for shipping. I would hate to go through all the money to breed her, and end up with something I do not want at all, because the sale price would be lower then what I had spent on the breeding. So now I am kind of thinking, keep looking for something I like regardless of where it is and go from there. I had a tobiano paint with two blue eyes out of scotch bar, and since my dad sold him out of anger at me, I have tried to track this horse down. I know his reg name and all that. But I can't find him. I know I can't replace him. But man would I love a horse with his color though. He was gorgeous. I am thinking I would be interested in buying a warmblood, thoroughbred, morgan, or a good built paint.
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        02-16-2014, 10:48 PM
      #43
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    That's always the drawback with breeding - no guarantee they will be what you want no matter how much effort you put into choosing the right stallion - plus all the time you have to wait until you can ride them and the costs of getting them to that point
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        02-16-2014, 11:34 PM
      #44
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    Aside from all the conformation faults, I wouldn't breed a grade horse. No matter how nice.
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        02-17-2014, 09:48 AM
      #45
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    I suppose I see things differently because apart from breed classes and the Irish Drafts and TB's all the top UK show horses, show ponies and show cobs are 'Grade' horses.
    Larissa - is this the sort of build you mean in a paint?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuQvQolPGbs
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        02-17-2014, 10:04 AM
      #46
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    I agree that realistically put a mare in foal is a roll of the dice as to weather you get what you want. OP you seem to know what you want and I think its easier to buy that than breed for it.
         
        02-17-2014, 10:11 AM
      #47
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    Originally Posted by jaydee    
    I suppose I see things differently because apart from breed classes and the Irish Drafts and TB's all the top UK show horses, show ponies and show cobs are 'Grade' horses.
    Larissa - is this the sort of build you mean in a paint?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuQvQolPGbs
    I agree, other then breed classes, a lot of good show horses and ponies are "Grade". Papers are just that papers. Papers don't make a champion. The right horse bred to the right horse can make one. Its all the luck of the draw. Personally, unless I want to do breed classes, I don't care about papers. And yes, that is the build I mean, that paint is built much like my horse was, if you want to look up the pedigree of the paint I had that I am trying to get one similar to his reg name is Smooth Scotch Bar.
         
        02-17-2014, 10:32 AM
      #48
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    There were some really well built horses in that pedigree - I can see the 'type' you are looking for.
         
        02-17-2014, 10:36 AM
      #49
    Trained
    The reason that people in the US harp so much on papers is it gives a potential foal one more notch above the grades out there if needing to be sold.

    Plus knowing a pedigree and whether a horse is true to its breeding gives you more of an edge to produce what you're looking for. If a horse is not true to its breeding and is essentially a "freak" (not necessarily a bad thing) then it is less likely to pass on the desirable traits to its offspring.
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        02-17-2014, 10:53 AM
      #50
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    Isn't the thinking behind the Sport Horse registration supposed to allow people to record the heritage of mixed breeds so you do know what their ancestry is?
    That's how it works in the UK (used to be the HIS) - along with the various showing registrations?
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