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  • Unwanted pregnancy in a mare
  • Terminating equine pregnancy

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    12-14-2012, 11:34 PM
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Green Broke
Possible Unwanted Pregnancy: Chances, Options...

It's been a hell of a day. I are living the mare owner's nightmare.

I board my horse, Baby Girl. She's pastured with a decent herd (about 10-12 head) of the BO's horses. Mares, geldings, yearlings... The BO buys and sells horses frequently.

A few months ago, she bought a yearling TWH colt, which she assumed was gelded. I don't particularly fault her. I mean, don't we all usually take someone's word that a horse is a gelding? It's a complicated he say she said situation, but the point is that we all thought he was a gelding and he is actually a stud.

For several weeks, I've been noticing the little colt mounting my mare. Only her, from what I've seen. I just thought, "Wow. I can't believe she's letting him do that." But I thought he was a gelding and my mare wasn't harmed. So heck. I ignored it. I've heard of gelding's attempting to "breed" mares.

Well... Since he is a year and a half old, presumably fertile... This situation just became a big deal. At least I think so. I'm freaking out.


What are the chances the little ******* impregnated my mare? I'm going to get a vet out to check in about two weeks. How are they doing to test her anyway?


If she is in foal... God forbid. I'm already having thoughts on this scenario. I'm 90% sure I would terminate the pregnancy, but I know nothing about how this is done or the potential risks. Tell me more.

That 10%... Anyone I've talked to who has ever had a foal aborted had better reasons than I do. A stallion jumped fence and bred a young filly. Risky pregnancy. Health reasons. The mare and/or the stallion were extremely undesirable animals and the foal would have a dim future.

I only have two reasons: A) A foal would be a huge inconvenience and wouldn't allow me to compete my mare, and B) my mare probably has PSSM. I've never had the test done (muscle biopsies are a touch invasive), but my vet and I are strongly leaning towards PSSM due to symptoms and response to treatment.

That's reason enough, right?

The stallion is a nicely conformed, has excellent bloodlines, and an amazing gait at liberty. He actually complements my mare well and is strong in all her weak areas. Baby Girl is a successful CTR horse and always places. She has solid conformation and great bloodlines. The foal wouldn't be unwanted or future-less or fugly... Which makes it hard to put my heart into aborting. I'm afraid people will be like, "That selfish bitch killed a perfectly good horse."


I'm just... Really frazzled by the whole thing. What would you guys do if you were in my situation? Talk some sense into me.
     
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    12-14-2012, 11:39 PM
  #2
Green Broke
I would terminate. Unless you want a foal. If early enough, it's a simple injection. I'm sure others may have experiences they can relay.
     
    12-14-2012, 11:44 PM
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Firstly, was the yearling gelded or not? If gelded he's not fertile, just randy. If not - how come nobody spotted the "Christmas baubles"? Had they not dropped (cryptorchid)? Are they visible now? If they're not showing there's a good chance he's not fertile anyway as the body heat kills the sperm. I know a number of geldings (including mine) that will happily mount and even penetrate a mare if given the chance but have less chance of making babies than a teapot has.

If on the other hand his testicles have appeared then there may be a problem. I'd still be scratching my head over how no one noticed though...
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    12-14-2012, 11:50 PM
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Green Broke
Nope. He is a confirmed stud. His owner talked directly to the person she bought him from and he admitted he wasn't gelded. I don't know how it wasn't noticed he had dropped. He isn't my horse, so I wasn't checking up on a supposed gelding's balls. And I guess no one else was either. But I did look with my own two eyes, and they are there. Apparently they have been for a while. The BO's daughter said she noticed "something" and guessed it was just scar tissue. *facepalm*
     
    12-14-2012, 11:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Brighteyes    
Nope. He is a confirmed stud. His owner talked directly to the person she bought him from and he admitted he wasn't gelded. I don't know how it wasn't noticed he had dropped. He isn't my horse, so I wasn't checking up on a supposed gelding's balls. And I guess no one else was either. But I did look with my own two eyes, and they are there. Apparently they have been for a while. The BO's daughter said she noticed "something" and guessed it was just scar tissue. *facepalm*
OOPS! Oh dear, then there may be a problem...

I'd be terminating if she is pregnant - seems like it's too great a risk to your mare, and the horse market is pretty bad out there. It should be an early termination so not too hard on your mare hopefully. I'll leave further advice up to the experienced breeders.
     
    12-15-2012, 12:07 AM
  #6
Trained
Once she is past a certain stage though it is considered to risky to terminate. You need to have the vet out ASAP. The vet will probably palpate and/or ultrasound to determine if bred and how far along she might be. This is done rectally


Good luck.
     
    12-15-2012, 12:33 AM
  #7
Yearling
We terminated a pregnancy once. The mare was staying at another place, one of those lovely back yard breeders. Well the lady put the filly put with her sire. This filly was only two years old. So not only was she a baby, her baby was from her father. We gave her a shot to abort the foal. She got really sweaty and irritable for about an hour. And then she went back to normal.
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    12-15-2012, 12:47 AM
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Green Broke
Thank you. I'm going to call and see if the vet can come out any earlier. Two weeks is some time.


Cowgirl... How far along was this mare when you terminated? At the risk of a stupid question: What became of the fetus? Did she pass it or did it just... Reabsorbe?
     
    12-15-2012, 08:24 AM
  #9
Trained
They don't reabsorbe the fetus. It's physically impossible.
     
    12-15-2012, 08:40 AM
  #10
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Originally Posted by Brighteyes    
Thank you. I'm going to call and see if the vet can come out any earlier. Two weeks is some time.


Cowgirl... How far along was this mare when you terminated? At the risk of a stupid question: What became of the fetus? Did she pass it or did it just... Reabsorbe?
They pass it, however, it would probably be unnoticeable when it happens. This is where the "absorb" it thinking comes in - most owners don't notice a mare that is miscarrying/aborting at a really early stage.
     

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