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post #111 of 115 Old 10-21-2012, 04:31 PM
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RiccilOve, I'm not 'Harping' on just because she has a sick filly inside for a bit - I'm 'harping on' because she said that NONE of her horses LIVE OUTSIDE. I find this extremely cruel. Horses are HERD animals they NEED to be with other horses OUTSIDE in LARGE areas where they can run freely. That, to me is a NO BRAINER.

If the filly is sick and she needs to be inside for a LIMITED time while she recovers (Personally I can't see how that would help) then OK however according to this woman ALL her horses live inside.

I'm sorry but I feel that if you don't have the land to keep horses as they should be kept then you should not have horses.
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post #112 of 115 Old 10-21-2012, 05:14 PM
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merlot, as someone who lives in NZ also I understand your thoughts regarding land and horses. Here we have more land opportunities and the majority of horse owners have their horses outside 24/7. That's just how we provide for our horses over here. I personally have never used a stall for any of my horses as I've never been on the property with one that's accessible to use. Nor do I feel I've needed one until recently. A mare I'm caring for has laminitis and boy oh boy do I wish for a box for her - she'd be a lot more comfortable on some nice bedding than what we've set up for her.

Other places and countries are not so lucky as we are for our amount of land. For centuries in some cases, horses have lived inside and coped accordingly. Most horses in for example the states have been born in a stall and so they know mo other way of life. Does this mean that they are any less nurtured or cared for? In most cases no. If anything horse owners in stabling situations put in more effort in dietary and exercise needs to ensure the animal is in tip top shape.

I get what you're trying to say but we all have removed our horses from what's natural and tamed them. To some boxing might be cruel. To others paddocking outdoors with no vast amount of pasture to roam is cruel. Some think rugging is horrible. The list goes on. We can't all agree on the same thing and yeah we're entitled to our opinions but I have to disagree with your comments on this particular poster. Her thread wasn't made to critique her way of managing her horses. For minis who I see an abundance of over here too fat and on too much grass, i'd prefer a pen or stall with some limited time on grass also.

I hope I don't offend anyone. I can see your point coming from a country that predominantly has their horses outside but I also understand the reasons to stabling and see it as a necessary evil in some places. Doesn't mean the horse is any less looked after!
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You are right Ohmyitschelle and I thank you for your balanced feedback.
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I've got to completely agree with you- some horses need to be outside, some couldn't survive that way. My mare is so horribly allergic to bugs she has an indoor outdoor stall, despite the grass outside and no food inside, on buggy days she'll spend most of the day inside, only going out when hunger gets the best of her or when she wants to rub her belly in the mud. Nothing I do helps her except to keep her locked up on the bad bug days.

Minis are prone to being overweight or getting laminitis from being overweight, they live on air alone, so many minis can't be left outside without turning into blimps and being seriously unhealthy, going for walks is a great way of dealing with that situation.
Point being, don't judge the op based on a few pics and no information, that poor filly is so lucky to have her indoor or out.
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RiccilOve, I'm not 'Harping' on just because she has a sick filly inside for a bit - I'm 'harping on' because she said that NONE of her horses LIVE OUTSIDE. I find this extremely cruel. Horses are HERD animals they NEED to be with other horses OUTSIDE in LARGE areas where they can run freely. That, to me is a NO BRAINER.

If the filly is sick and she needs to be inside for a LIMITED time while she recovers (Personally I can't see how that would help) then OK however according to this woman ALL her horses live inside.

I'm sorry but I feel that if you don't have the land to keep horses as they should be kept then you should not have horses.
Just my opinion.
You are coming across extremely naive. Maybe it's just because of where you live, but it isn't possible to keep every horse in the world outside 24/7. Some places get tons and tons of snow, and some horses are very old and arthritic. How on earth is it cruel to keep said horse in a cozy stall or stall with small turnout in situations like this?

Most barns work primarily on lots of stalls and daytime turnout.

Therapy barns require horses to be inside most of the day to be easy on the volunteers, as not all are totally horse savvy and couldn't necessarily pull one horse out of a turn out for a class.

Most owners don't just stick their horse in a stall all day every day and don't let it out. Most owners make sure to supply enough roughage and get the horse out for enough exercise.

What's *cruel* is beating your horse, not feeding it, riding it in a harsh bit without the need or soft hands to use it correctly, not getting your horse's feet done consistently, etc etc.

And to me, it's a NO BRAINER that the OP cares very much for her horse. Save your soapbox for the owner that comes on here and whines about her sick or dead lame horse and DOESN'T get a vet out for it. Don't be so naive.
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