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    08-03-2014, 02:06 AM
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Pregnant, yikes!? (Stallion or not?)

Already posted this but am reposting with more information and even pictures.In October of 2013 I moved barns. I have a four year old mare that wasn't enduring heats before due to under weight (I have only had her for about a year) but started going into heat every one to two months and it will last about a week or two in duration when we moved. She wasnt introduced into the pasture until approximately end of November 2013 early December 2013. She is quite the flirt. She was recently going out to pasture with a quarter horse 'gelding', he has been caught mounting and hooking up with my mare. So now she doesn't go out to pasture with him anymore but her heats have stopped in the last two months. Is there such thing as 'spring fever' for horses? Is there anyway to tell other than getting her palpated if she is pregnant or he is a stud after all. He is an OTQH said never to have bred. But I have been informed that there is a chance that a ball never dropped and in some cases can drop even at 12 years old. Any advice is welcomed. (Take under consideration it isn't my intention to inpregnate my mare currently yes there are future plans but that is years into the future) the gelding doesn't belong to me and we are planning to take her to the vet but again keeping it on the down low because I will do everything in my power to avoid any sort of barn drama. Here are two pictures of her yesterday (August 1), her teats are slightly elongate and enlarge (she isn't fatty whatsoever). I can get a teat shot but that's probably if asked. She hasn't ever been bred. Also I should mention that there is a Paintaloosa (he is sp ugly he is cute) next door. But they are separated by a fence which is also wired with hotwire, so unlikely but not impossible. Thanks for all the help! Please try to be patient with me didn't plan for any sort of breeding and kinda tight on money.
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    08-03-2014, 02:19 AM
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Here is a before and after she was out out with said gelding. The top is yesterday and the bottom is the before introduction.Her butt is a very decent thickness and so you can't see her width from behind but it's obvious from the from view. Will get a photo of that as well.
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    08-03-2014, 02:29 AM
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This far along into pregnancy she would be way larger than she is now. With how little and "thin" she is, at eight to ten months pregnant she would be massive with belly size. Mares are pregnant for eleven months, she doesn't appear eight to ten months pregnant to me.
     
    08-03-2014, 02:37 AM
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This was my mare at 9 or 10 months. You can see her "milk vein". She looks almost like she has a very large hay belly...yet pregnant.
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    08-03-2014, 02:46 AM
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This far along into pregnancy she would be way larger than she is now. With how little and "thin" she is, at eight to ten months pregnant she would be massive with belly size. Mares are pregnant for eleven months, she doesn't appear eight to ten months pregnant to me.
She may not have been covered the minute she appeared in pasture. And if (hypotheticall though not sure) she were pregnant she may not be all the way to eight to ten months. :) I mean no offense with thos reply just an observation and if maybe from her other symptoms what could be going on. She is dewormed every six weeks. Also with the before and after shot, the top photo is her most recent of her. I will have to get a from view. And I was under the impression that many maiden mares don't even bag up until a night or two before foaling, so would I see a milk vein?
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    08-03-2014, 02:50 AM
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She may not have been covered the minute she appeared in pasture. And if (hypotheticall though not sure) she were pregnant she may not be all the way to eight to ten months. :) I mean no offense with thos reply just an observation and if maybe from her other symptoms what could be going on. She is dewormed every six weeks.
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Well you gave me from November to December, if that's her time frame she would look like my mare.
Either way I have read your others posts, I still agree with them. Get her ultrasounded, though it's highly unlikely she was bred by a cryptorchid and successfully took.
When else could she have been bred?

Another thing, if she has never been bred her teats shouldn't be developing or changing any time unless she is way further in pregnancy. I've never seen teat changes until later in pregnancy. Elongation, swelling, so on so on.
     
    08-03-2014, 03:00 AM
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Well you gave me from November to December, if that's her time frame she would look like my mare.
Either way I have read your others posts, I still agree with them. Get her ultrasounded, though it's highly unlikely she was bred by a cryptorchid and successfully took.
When else could she have been bred?

Another thing, if she has never been bred her teats shouldn't be developing or changing any time unless she is way further in pregnancy. I've never seen teat changes until later in pregnancy. Elongation, swelling, so on so on.
Oh! I should have said she was introduced approximately mid to end of November or early December, she didn't get her pasture schedule changed so it didn't coordinate with this particular gelding until about three months ago. There is a Paintaloosa stud that shares the fence with a pasture. The top of the fence has a string of hot wire, but its not on hardly ever. Do you know how much Ultrasounds cost approximately also? Thank you for your help.
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    08-03-2014, 03:05 AM
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Originally Posted by rayraystilwell    
Oh! I should have said she was introduced approximately mid to end of November or early December, she didn't get her pasture schedule changed so it didn't coordinate with this particular gelding until about three months ago. There is a Paintaloosa stud that shares the fence with a pasture. The top of the fence has a string of hot wire, but its not on hardly ever. Do you know how much Ultrasounds cost approximately also? Thank you for your help.
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If I honestly remembered I would tell you, best thing you could do is phone your vet and ask!
Ultrasound shouldn't be sky high expensive, it's considered a primary treatment since breeding is very common.
If I were you I would get her ultrasounded, check for pregnancy and make sure twins is not possible.
Also! Debating...Do you have any pictures of this "Gelding?"
IF she is pregnant would you keep the foal or lute it?
It's an accidental breeding, if both parents are unproven, not well built, so forth the foal will receive a lot of that.
Unregistered and horses that are not eye catching do not sell for much. There are so many unwanted babies out there from BYB, accidental breedings, and surplus of breedings.

Before we get into all of that, I would make sure she IS pregnant. If she is not you don't have anything to worry about.
     
    08-03-2014, 03:13 AM
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[QUOE=Aesthetic;5939162]If I honestly remembered I would tell you, best thing you could do is phone your vet and ask!
Ultrasound shouldn't be sky high expensive, it's considered a primary treatment since breeding is very common.
If I were you I would get her ultrasounded, check for pregnancy and make sure twins is not possible.
Also! Debating...Do you have any pictures of this "Gelding?"
IF she is pregnant would you keep the foal or lute it?
It's an accidental breeding, if both parents are unproven, not well built, so forth the foal will receive a lot of that.
Unregistered and horses that are not eye catching do not sell for much. There are so many unwanted babies out there from BYB, accidental breedings, and surplus of breedings.

Before we get into all of that, I would make sure she IS pregnant. If she is not you don't have anything to worry about.[/QUOTE]

I have a picture of the head of the gelding in question. They have decent body structures, decent coloring, but their range in abilities are very great. My mare I use for drill team, barrels, ranch work, great trail horse, anything cow, poles, even done some english stuff. The 'gelding' 2D barrel racer,ex-roper/anything cow, great trail horse, very docile temperament. Very good and athletic horses. I do believe that it he baby could be sold if she were to be pregnant. But I would like to approach that after the pregnant or not question :). Male is also registered with beautiful bloodlines, exracer as well. Here is a picture of his head, what good it will do you I have no idea.
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    08-03-2014, 03:22 AM
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I have a picture of the head of the gelding in question. They have decent body structures, decent coloring, but their range in abilities are very great. My mare I use for drill team, barrels, ranch work, great trail horse, anything cow, poles, even done some english stuff. The 'gelding' 2D barrel racer,ex-roper/anything cow, great trail horse, very docile temperament. Very good and athletic horses. I do believe that it he baby could be sold if she were to be pregnant. But I would like to approach that after the pregnant or not question :). Male is also registered with beautiful bloodlines, exracer as well. Here is a picture of his head, what good it will do you I have no idea.
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Coloring is the LAST concern in breeding.

How's his personality? Hers? Concentration? Patience? So forth? You say he's doccile, but HOW docile is he?

Where all has we raced? Roped? Does he only run local or does he actually PROVE his worth anywhere else?

You say you're low on money, I may be out of line but it's a huge concern.
Do you have the finance to give proper brood mare care? Vet checks and visits before and after delivery? Property for separation and weaning?

The reason i'm asking these questions is because IF SHE IS pregnant, you'll need to decide if you're ready and set to commit to this foal or if you are not and terminate the pregnancy.

Accidental pregnancy catches people by surprise, and if you aren't ready/fit/or knowledgeable on the costs/issues/care/ etc, it could wind up more than you can chew.

My work with my foal has been difficult, financially and care wise. My mare dropped a TREMENDOUS amount of weight from this foal no matter what I was feeding her or supplementing her! AND this baby was planned
     

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