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post #11 of 17 Old 07-22-2009, 12:33 PM
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I hate hate hate breeding hobbles and would never use them. Too many accidents can occur with them and getting close to enough to cut or unbuckle them when all $%## is breaking loose is dangerous for everyone involved

I will get myself a pair of the thickly felt padded hind boots which all TB farms will use as well. If/when the mare kicks, the stallion gets a soft muted "thud" rather than a full blown kick. FAR safer and most/all mares don't seem to mind the boots on in behind as most were used to being handled / having shoes on from their racing days ...

And yeah - we tease and tease some more and use ultrasounds so we pretty well optimize the prime time for breeding

And if all else fails and we 100% know the mare should be a breed today, we use a cocktail of Dormosodan and/or Torb to get the mare to stand and not kick out. Fast acting, short lasting and it really does the trick ...

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post #12 of 17 Old 07-22-2009, 09:02 PM
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Typically, a Live Foal Guarantee means you get extra "chances", not that you don't pay. You would pay for the breeding as normal, all money up front, and if a vet certified that the foal was born dead (or whatever classification of the contract stated the specifics of how the foal must be) then you would be shipped more semen free of charge (except of course for tray fees/shipping charges, etc. in the case of AI). Before this, I'd never heard of simply not paying until you got a live foal. Most stud owners don't want to wait around for a year until they get paid.


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post #13 of 17 Old 07-22-2009, 10:47 PM
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well not everyone is the same now are they? Contract we have states just what I said. No living foal for 24hours, no pay. They already got money for semen collection, "transporting semen" (which was 5 min down the road), and having her stabled there. That times, how ever many mares he books per season (a lot)... lets just say they lose no money. They are a large farm with many studs, most producing millionare babies.... they arent crying over much. And as far as waiting a year, they do.
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post #14 of 17 Old 07-22-2009, 11:11 PM
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I think you're talking about artificial insemination, not in vitro fertilization.

Have you ever raised a foal? Trained a foal from ground up? I'd think you'd wish to do this first, before breeding your mare.

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I think you're talking about artificial insemination, not in vitro fertilization.

Have you ever raised a foal? Trained a foal from ground up? I'd think you'd wish to do this first, before breeding your mare.
Yeah I meant AI ... Please notice that the first line of my post says:

"So I have a few breeding questions ... I don't plan to breed my mare but I wanted to learn ... "

That should answer your question .. but yes I have trained a foal from the ground up... but like I said I have NO plans to breed my mare...

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well not everyone is the same now are they? Contract we have states just what I said. No living foal for 24hours, no pay. They already got money for semen collection, "transporting semen" (which was 5 min down the road), and having her stabled there. That times, how ever many mares he books per season (a lot)... lets just say they lose no money. They are a large farm with many studs, most producing millionare babies.... they arent crying over much. And as far as waiting a year, they do.
I never called the truth of it into question, I was only verifying for the OP that typically, that's not how it's done. She was asking about questions for breeding, so I felt I should clarify that for her.

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post #17 of 17 Old 07-24-2009, 07:08 PM
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I never called the truth of it into question, I was only verifying for the OP that typically, that's not how it's done. She was asking about questions for breeding, so I felt I should clarify that for her.
and im clarifying that not everyone does it the same. Im not saying you're wrong or im right, just that everyone has a different way of doing things. What it comes down to really is reading a contract
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