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    02-14-2010, 12:42 AM
recent gelding

We recently came into owning a 5 year old stallion. This horse had lived with a group of horsed on the place he came from. We had him gelded 3 weeks ago and today tried to introduce him to our herd. He was fine with them for several hours and then suddenly he started trying to attack them. He broke the old gelding out of herd and was continually biting and chasing him. After we finally got them seperated and I caught him he walked out of the pen like nothing happened. My question is will do you think he will get over this behaviour with time or has been a stallion for two long.
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    02-14-2010, 12:45 AM
Green Broke
My vet told me it can take some time for the testosterone to get out of a stallion's system.
    02-14-2010, 12:49 AM
It can take up to 6 months or so for the testosterone to leave his system. I had my guy gelded at 3, but he wasn't studdy to begin with so it left him faster. It all depends on the horse.
    02-14-2010, 08:57 AM
With older horses it may be as much a learned response as a function of chemistry. He may have been behaving like that since he was two or three years old so it's pretty ingrained. You would have been better off to have turned him in when he was still sore from being gelded and didn't want to fight too much but that ship has sailed.
    02-14-2010, 09:00 AM
This is a wait and see situation. You won't really know what you've got in terms of stallion behavior for 3 - 6 months. I would continue to treat him as a stallion for that period of time.

And to kevin's point, lots of horses that are cut later retain some stallion behaviors as learned behaviors.
    02-14-2010, 09:51 AM
Green Broke
Before I gelded my 13 yr old stallion I had him in paddocks next to his future pasture mates so they could get aquainted before hand. I am sure when he was in a herd before it wasn't with male competition just mares. A stallions instinct is to kill other males so they can have the herd to themselves.
    02-14-2010, 09:52 AM
Green Broke
Like the others mentioned, you wont really know what your dealing with until he fully settles in as a gelding. My coming 8 year old (in my avatar) was only gelded last year, and had been used as a breeding stallion before that, so I had a lot of concern about putting him with my other horses - especially my young colt. It had been close to 6 months he had been gelded when I got him. I got lucky, he did fine with my horses, and seemed to have no "studdy" behaviors retained, other than initially he did try to mount my pony when she was in heat - so we seperated her out when she was cycling, until the last few months he has stopped doing it (though she has continued to cycle this winter). There is always a chance a horse gelded that late will retain some studdy habits, sometimes for a long time, sometimes forever, and you have to learn to work around it. You might not ever be able to turn him out with your herd. You might just have to give it some time. It's really a wait and see kind of thing.
    02-14-2010, 01:14 PM
At three weeks after, they can actually get a mare pregnant. It takes 30 days for the live sperm to be gone. Some say longer. It takes 60 days or more to lose the hormone, testosterone. But as said above, if it's a learned response, embedded in their brain, they may always chase other "boys" out of a herd of mares.

I bought 2 geldings at the same time once. They were great buddies. Then they were out with mares. The first time a favorite mare came into heat, one gelding ran the other through a PIPE fence.

So some do great, and some are idiots forever. Hard thing to predict.
    02-14-2010, 01:16 PM
Green Broke
I had a proud cut gelding growing up. He would mount my grandpa's mare. OMG as a kid it was so embarrassing to have your friends over to see that!
    02-14-2010, 01:20 PM
Green Broke
Originally Posted by Solon    
I had a proud cut gelding growing up. He would mount my grandpa's mare. OMG as a kid it was so embarrassing to have your friends over to see that!
*LMAO* My last horse, a FQH, was also proud cut. I worked at a guided ride stable and he was my guide mount. A fantastic horse, but not fun to explain when you have just led a group of girl scouts into the barn to go for a ride and he's feeling his oats

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