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        04-04-2010, 10:40 AM
    Yeah, I understand that, but its people who think unpapered, grade horses are the ones who make my blood pressure boil, haha. I don't care what others think I like to explain my thinking so maybe others will understand were im coming from :]
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        04-04-2010, 12:26 PM
    Green Broke
    So just be happy with your horse and don't care what other people think. That's the way I am- the horse only has to please me, because it's my horse. If other people think it's too slow, too short, not the right breed, who cares. I'm not buying a horse to please them, I'm buying a horse to please me!

    And if your horse kicks butt at the shows, you can feel extra good about it!

    I used to own two Arabian trail horses. They were my first and second horses. I loved them and rode everyday, everywhere around our boarding stable. I was a teenager at the time and I used to get my feelings hurt because some people were always talking bad about Arabians, that they were crazy and such. I actually used to cry about it! And then I thought, you know what? I ride my horses everywhere and enjoy doing it. The people who talk bad about Arabians don't even ride their horses regularly. They NEED a docile horse because either they can't ride well or don't care to keep their horses exercised. So why should I get my feels hurt when me and my horses are doing great and enjoying each other?

    Now I have a Mustang, and a lot of people think he walks too slow, but you know what, he's the perfect horse for me! I came to the conclusion that I would ditch my riding buddies before I would ditch my horse. He's the best horse I have ever owned.
        04-04-2010, 12:31 PM
    Awh, thanks for the pep-talk :] somettimes I just get so frustrated with people, haha
        04-05-2010, 01:52 PM
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    I get what you are saying. Like I said, I have 3 grade horses and 2 registered. Even though the unpapered horses do well in the show, and even win some classes, you still get that, "too bad he's not registered" or "is he registered". Some people are just asking, some are really saying it to try to bring you down. I totally get what you are saying, but be proud and enjoy, you always get to be the underdog!
        04-05-2010, 02:10 PM
    I think a good grade horse is just that, a good grade horse. A good registered horse is simply a good registered horse. And on the other side of the coin, a crappy grade horse is a crappy grade horse, etc.

    There are lots of mutt horses showing very well in the hunter world, where actual breed registration does not matter one bit.

    OP, you might want to realize that even with a registered horse people make comments. Like 'gee, it would be a nice horse if it was not an appaloosa' (not trying to offend any appy owners, I just picked a breed, the breed I happen to own even). People like to comment. You have to just learn to shrug and be happy with what you have when what you have is working out right for you.

    On the breeding front I do see a problem with intentionally making a mutt. (High end sport horses are not mutts in my opinion.) I see no reason to breed two unregistered horses because they will make a pretty color baby. This opinion holds true for dogs also.

    Both my horses are registered. I actually like having their papers because it helps me remember all their information. Silly reason? Sure. But it works for me. My old man I would have bought even if he did not have papers though. He wonderful because he is wonderful, not because he has papers.
        04-05-2010, 03:03 PM
    I have one reg horse and one "grade" horse. My grade horse my baby and I would not trade him for the world but I feel silly when ppl say what breed and I say "umm I think qh , don't you? " lol I would love to hace papers but would not trade him for the world
        04-05-2010, 10:05 PM
    I know what your saying chavez, I just tell people that mines a paint :] and when people ask if she's registered, I just say yes :] it's true she's registered with BEHA (blue eyed horse association) because I wanted to own her show name :] so all in all i'm over my little rant thanks guys :]
        04-05-2010, 10:09 PM
    Youre right, it is just a piece of paper. And sure you can show in breed specific classes, but does that make them better? I'm not saying if any of you have Registered horses tha my horse is better, but a few pieces of paper don't make a horse. (: hope thsat calms the nerves a little(:
        04-05-2010, 11:18 PM
    Stormy that's exactly what I was going for :]]]
        04-05-2010, 11:59 PM
    To me, papers are very important.

    1. I'm a bloodline nut! I have a huge interest in the bloodlines, lineage, prepotency (sp?) etc. of my chosen breed, Australian Stock Horses. I trawl the online studbook, following lines, picking family traits, etc. What crosses well on what, what doesn't, what lines are good for working, what lines are good for hacking, jumping, etc. I love it - and only registered horses can give this to you. I love ebing able to rattle off my horses ancestors and tell you what they were good at, what other progeny they have, etc.

    2. I show in breed shows exclusively. For what I do, you CAN NOT do it on an unregistered horse - The classes my breed shows in are exclusive to registered horses of this breed.

    3. Genetic traits and predispostion. By knowing the bloodlines of a particular horse you can get a better-than-average idea of any genetic issues, and what discipline the horse might be predisposed to. I wouldn't go buy a Kiawana Lunchtime Serenade horse if I wanted a working horse, I would go buy a Cadabra horse or a Chevin Ivory horse or a Hazelwoon Conman horse or an Acres Destiny horse. You don't get that with a grade horse.

    4. Easy tracing. Through the breed organsiations you can trace the horses previous owners. I have contacted and talked to every one of Bundy's 4 previous owners, from his breeder, to his breaker, to his first rider, and then the lady I bought him from.

    5. Acurate records of age.

    6. Acurate performance records - My breed association maintains records of the horses performance.

    7. Resale. I buy and sell horses - Not quickly, but a few years down the track. You will always get a better re-sale value on a well trained registered horse than a well trained grade horse.

    8. Brands and recording of brands and markings. Makes a horse easily traceable if you sell it or it gets stolen, etc.


    I've owned grade horses. They were fine horses. I don't have anything against them. But for what I do and what I want, I won't buy anything but a registered horse. And if I breed in the future, I won't breed anything but a registered horse.

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