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    12-31-2011, 03:27 PM
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Foal
Reining Stallion Advice?

Hi, I'm looking to breed my mare in 2012, and would appreciate a little friendly advice in choosing the right stallion. I'm open to AI, although something more local would be nice (Live in Central Texas). My mare is AQHA Jazz Timin, by Dual Jazz (Dual Pep) and out of Ima Timin Gal (Cutting bred - part of a successful local breeders line). I'll upload photos as soon as I can. I'm looking for color and ability in the foal, and since my mare is a sorrel with two white feet, it will need to come from the sire. I'm into reining, so the foal will most likely be my reining horse.

Conformationally, the stallion needs to have straight legs and good pasterns, to best compliment the mare. Quality of the resulting horse should be worth the investment.
Color is, as I said, high on my checklist. I absolutely swoon over Gunners, and the splash pattern is my hope.

Two that I've looked at:

Nedpoint Quarter Horses - Stallions
Colonels Lone Gun looks to be homozygous, but it is hard to tell from the limited pictures of offspring. It seems most homozygous splash show much more white. Any more information about his offspring would be GREATLY appreciated!

yor high noon page.html
YOR High Noon is a Canadian Appaloosa stallion, apparently now open to the public. Don't know much about him, any helpful Appy breeders out there?

There is also a (somewhat) closer Appaloosa/Quarter stallion. I'll find the link and post it with photos of my mare.

Information on additional horses would be great, and thank you for taking time to help.

Jazz
     
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    12-31-2011, 03:53 PM
  #2
Trained
First Colonels Lone Gun is not Homozygous. As he has not known lines to crop outs bottom side. He is a nice stallion. Like the Continental Ace bottom side.

What is your price range? What level are you looking at showing at?

When you say color do you mean a pattern color or just color like Dun Pally and so on?
     
    12-31-2011, 05:28 PM
  #3
Foal
Really? I think I read it on a stallion database site, thanks for clearing that up. Guess I'd just assumed because every offspring photo I saw had obvious splash.

1500 is really the top of my price range, lower would be nice, nothing over.

As far as color goes, I'm not picky. Partial to buckskins, but I understand that with my mare the chances are slim with most double dilutes. Heard about this guy a while back, but I'm not sure I really care for his confo, and there's no show record. Bedonna's Performance Horses

So yes, basically just the pattern. I don't know of any well-known reining stallions with the tell-tale homozygous look. Do believe there's one in Australia, but that's just a bit beyond my reach... I'm really open to suggestions.

I'm currently at the youth/non-pro level, but when this horse is of competing age, I'll be ready for something that can carry me further.

And I'm sorry, but what do you mean by "As he has not known lines to crop outs bottom side?" Probably just the wording that threw me off.

Thank you so much for helping me out
     
    12-31-2011, 06:07 PM
  #4
Trained
Colonels long gun by Gunner is a crop out QH. Not a paint. SO you would need to have 2 crop out QHs to get a homozygous horse.

As to the stallion you posted. I personally would pass on him for many reasons.

If you are looking for a double dilute I would look at The Great White Hope. Good stud fee he is the hands of a good show trainer so will get more earnings. He is only coming 4 this year so he is young but nicely bred.
     
    12-31-2011, 06:21 PM
  #5
Foal
What about Mark This Spot. Look him up he's at havertyranch.com
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    12-31-2011, 06:56 PM
  #6
Foal
Ok, thanks. It was just the wording that threw me off.

And I like the first stallion. Just wondering, /are/ there any homozygous splash reiners out there? Or are most crop-outs?
This is the Australian horse: Shaw's Performance Horses
If only....
     
    12-31-2011, 07:09 PM
  #7
Trained
Since there is no test for splash there is no real way to know. As it can hide to a large extent. My mare has produced 2 crop out QH in 2 foals by 2 different stallions so you just never really know when it will crop up. However my mare has a line on her bottom side known for producing crop outs.

Also if you look at most splash stallions in APHA they are crop outs some where down the line.

If your mare is a QH I would only use a double registered stallion if you are trying for color. This way if you do not get a crop out you still have a fully registered QH.
     
    12-31-2011, 07:11 PM
  #8
Weanling
If you really want color and performance ability why in the world don't you just buy a weanling or yearling? If you have a budget of $1500 you could pick up a potential star easily in the current market without participating in the crapshoot of breeding. Just a thought.
     
    12-31-2011, 07:17 PM
  #9
Trained
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Originally Posted by Bellasmom    
If you really want color and performance ability why in the world don't you just buy a weanling or yearling? If you have a budget of $1500 you could pick up a potential star easily in the current market without participating in the crapshoot of breeding. Just a thought.
I do not know what her mare is like but if the mare is reining bred and has earnings there is no way you could touch a reining prospect for $1500.
     
    12-31-2011, 10:50 PM
  #10
Weanling
I don't believe this mare has been shown, so no earnings, cutting bred according to OP, pictures previously posted in a previous thread show a cute mare, but not spectacular. I respectfully stand by my suggestion to spend money on a known quantity rather than breed and *hope* for a higher quality foal than the dam, especially since color is a concern.
     

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