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    08-10-2012, 06:59 PM
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Rescue Thoroughbred mare appears preggers???

We rescued 3 horses in February (a Thoroughbred, Morab, Arabian/Trakehner), which makes 6 total for us. The Thoroughbred mare was taken away from her foal at that time, but her milk never dried up and she is bagging up again..... She has some pretty tremendously protruding veins and is suddenly very territorial. She just mule kicked our rescued yearling gelding (arabian/trakehner), which is very abnormal for her. She is typically very tolerant of his doting behavior. When we picked the horses up, it was mentioned that 4 arabian stallians were fenced nearby and frequently jumped the fences when the mares were in heat. Apparently, that's how she became pregnant the previous time. So, we have no way of knowing exactly when she might be due. In fact, we had our farm vet come out to look at her a couple of months ago and she said, "It's not my specialty. But, you'll know for sure in a few months." Hmm. I was raised with an Arabian/Quarter mare that had 3 foals..... I helped birth one of them. But, she was a much smaller and differetly shaped horse. Not to mention, it was a long time ago. I will attach some pics I took today of her. Any thoughts on our "Blakely" would be welcome and appreciated.
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    08-10-2012, 08:28 PM
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Started
I would get a different vet out. Any vet should be able to put the ultrasound on or palpate her. That way you would know for sure and based on the size of any potential foal you would estimate how far along she is. Otherwise, you don't know what you could get or when. You don't even know when to start foal watch.
     
    08-10-2012, 09:21 PM
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Foal
That's a very good point. We had the vet give her vaccinations that are safe for pregnant mares, got a Mare and Foal suppliment, and, of course, have her on a regular deworming schedule...... just in case. The vet didn't seem to be at all concerned about her birthing randomly in a 40-acre field, which is bizarre. I have a couple of other vets' numbers on hand (there is no one else that is remotely close). I'm hoping she will be good in a pinch. But, I will follow your advise and request a visit for an ultrasound on Monday. I am getting concerned that, although Blakely has become the alpha mare since she came, she has never gone into heat, been moody, or overly aggressive. Just lately, she mercilessly gouged up our sweet yearling (she kicked him several times, until he was cornered, on his knees trying to back away, and bleeding). Before then, they were inseperable. All of the horses seem to be edgy and afraid of her now.... understandably. Hopefully, the vet will give us good news. I will keep you posted.
     
    08-11-2012, 12:26 AM
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Foal
I'd say there is a very high chance she is pregnant if she was in contact with stallions. Keep us updated if she is in foal!
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    08-11-2012, 09:15 AM
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If she's over 90 days, you can't ultrasound anymore due to where the fetus is in the uterus. Id imagine she's over 90 days, so shed need a palpation to say for sure if she's bred of not, and how far along she is.

Id contact a vet and get it done asap so I can plan accordingly. There are shots that mares need 30 days prior to foaling in order to build antibodies in their milk for the upcoming foal.
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    08-11-2012, 11:20 AM
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Yearling
If were you OP id assume she was pregnant. The way her stomache buldges is what my mare did when my foal was born. Though I can't say for sure but I would assume so.
     
    08-11-2012, 11:35 AM
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Foal
That's good to know. I will discuss palpation and a blood test with the vet! But, neither option really gives us a close estimate on a due date, right? [In talking with dbarabians on another post]-- I like the idea of letting them work out the dynamic of the heard and birth as naturally as possible, especially introducing the foal in such a manner. I am just concerned that we will not be able to assist her if she has trouble birthing out in our 40 acres of hills, trees, stream.... It is certainly not over crowded and there is no debris, but what if she has trouble and is not capable of separating herself from the rest of the heard? We have a huge Morab gelding, (Casa)Nova, (that was rescued with her) that is the alpha male and has made himself her protector; she depends on him and gets very anxious when he is not close. She has been very aggressive lately, but if she were in duress I don't think she could beat him off with a stick. He is very tenacious and bull headed, at best. Maybe he was cut late in the game? But, the heard they were with, before we brought them home, was very overcrowded, underfed, neglected, and extremely aggressive.... Being we don't have any idea of a due date how will we know when to inconspicuously stalk her around the property to be sure she and the foal are safe and don't need assistance? To make matters more concerning for me, we have 5 children, who were adopted from the US, Russia and Ethiopia that have major trauma and attachment issues. The horses have become part of their bonding and healing process. So, I don't think they could handle losing a foal that they are very eagerly anticipating..... So, anyway, there are lots of considerations. Any ideas on heard control and/or dependable signs of due date approaching??

Read more: Possible accidental breeding... mare could foal this summer or this winter if bred.
     
    08-11-2012, 11:46 AM
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Foal
TexasBlaze, thanks for your comparison! I know each mare is so different that it is almost futile to compare. But, can you tell me how far along she was when she started to bulge or anything along those lines. Blakely has such a large frame and the stallion would have been a bit smaller and arabian, so she may carry the foal without the huge barrel appearance. The arab mare I had as a kid was unmistakably pregant with a QH stallion breeding. It looked like she was going to give birth to a water buffalo, by the size of her barrel and sway in her swagger. We are really hoping that she doesn't give birth too late in the season, as we may have to upgrade to a heated barn in our harsh winter WI weather. Yikes.
     
    08-11-2012, 11:53 AM
  #9
Yearling
Aund two months was when my mare started buldging like that. Then she got very big very rapidly. Usually the third trimester is when the baby starts packin on the pounds. Before that the baby is mostly internal organ development but third trimester is where they finally start packin on the pounds so they can be born.
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    08-11-2012, 05:47 PM
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Green Broke
I don't think having her foal in a large pasture w/all the other horses around is a great idea. The other horses may attack it & do it in. If she has any complications then she is in danger as well as the foal.She also maybe protective right after foaling, so having the kids around could be dangerous for them.
     

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