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  • Is frozen or cooled semen better for shipping and getting a mare in foal
  • How long does shipped cooled semen last

 
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    02-19-2012, 12:43 PM
  #1
Yearling
Shipped Semen/good match?

So I really want to breed my mare, but I want to wait til I have more time/money to invest in a baby. I found a stud that I really, really, reallly like, and the breeder offers shipped semen. I have never used this before, and don't know my mares ovulation cycle. The stud is a long ways away (as in across the country), and there is no way on earth I am shipping her there for the sake of distance and cost.
So here are my questions:
1. How long does shipped semen last?
2. Should I have a vet inseminate my mare, or a local breeder?
3. Here are photos of the 2 studs I picked and my mare; tell me if you think they will be a good match. I do, but I want other opinions!

K bar K Missouri Fox Trotters and Custom Western Jewelry THIS IS MY #1! I am in love with this stud. But what do you guys think of his conformation? I love his color, and I love his conformation. My only question is that there is no video to see how he moves.

Blue Roan Stallion - Missouri Fox Trotter - Bridle Ridge Gaited Horses Ok, so this url is my 2nd favorite. I like how much more lean he is, but I'm not so into his color. Conformation wise, I want offspring to have a smaller head then my mare. This guy is a bit taller then my liking, but then again since my mare isn't the tallest I think they would average out nicely. I love his conformation, but my biggest question mark on him is his color. I'm not a fan of the black based color. I'm more of a bay, sorrel, chocolate, person.

And last but not least, here is my mare. Forgive the fluffy coat and hay belly in some of the photos. She is super calm, has great energy, and is so smooth its unbelievable. But she can't seem to canter and this worries me. I love her to death, and think she would make an amazing baby. She isn't registered, but I am thinking of registering her (if the breeder ever returns my contact). She is used for trail and has amazing trail capabilities, often outpacing and outworking the proven trail QH's that we ride with. Her stamina, heart, and ability to take on any object put in front of her are phenomenal! She barrels through obstacles like a piece of cake, she is the best trail horse I have ever owned, hands down.

The 3rd photo was the day I brought her home, so she looks kinda crappy as she was left in a pasture and almost never touched. Since these photos were taken, I have had her hooves trimmed and started riding again. (The ice here was so bad we had to coat the pens with kitty litter for traction :/)

In the last photo, ignore me. I put that one up so you could see what color she is when she doesn't resemble a wooly mammoth lol

I can take more photos today if it would help.
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    02-19-2012, 01:24 PM
  #2
Started
I would strongly urge you to have an equine reproduction vet to breed AI. You will to save up money for paying for ultrasounds and other vet bills. The vet will determine when to breed the mare. Cooled semen has a short life span, and frozen keeps much longer if stored properly.
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    02-19-2012, 04:56 PM
  #3
Foal
Ditto above. It is worth it to have a certified reproduction specialist handle all of your AI.

Frozen shipped lasts longer, but the person on the mare's end needs to be very well-versed in what they are doing as it is a very delicate process that can easily be skrewed up. Using frozen is also usually more expensive as it is a lot more time-consuming on the specialist's side of things.

You do not really need to know your mare's cycles. Through ultrasound the specialist will be able to determine where she is at in her cycle and approximately when she should ovulate. He/She will order semen to have on-hand when they feel the mare will ovulate.

Price wise there isn't a huge difference between AI and Live Cover cost wise. So far, live cover has proven to be more expensive for me. I prefer to take my mares to a specialist and drop them off to stay until they are confirmed in foal.
     
    02-19-2012, 05:10 PM
  #4
Weanling
Colorwise...if that first guy actually has cream you could get chestnut, palomino or cremello. Otherwise your colors would be chestnut or palomino.
The second guy has more options. He is homozygous black so the base color will be bay or black. Then you could also have a shot at getting bay roan, blue roan, buckskin, smokey black, buckskin roan or blue roan with cream (Im not sure I've ever heard a combined name for that one)

According to the color calculator at Animal Genetics
Offspring Color Probability

12.50% -
Smoky Blue Roan
12.50% -
Smoky Black
12.50% -
Buckskin Roan
12.50% -
Buckskin
12.50% -
Blue Roan
12.50% -
Black
12.50% -
Bay Roan
12.50% -
Bay
     
    02-19-2012, 05:27 PM
  #5
Foal
The first stallion doesn't carry cream, he's a chestnut. Your options for color with him would be 50/50 chestnut or palomino.
     
    02-19-2012, 05:37 PM
  #6
Trained
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Originally Posted by cowgirl928    
So here are my questions:
1. How long does shipped semen last?
Will vary a bit from stallion to stallion but the longest on average is 72 hours but that is really pushing it. Most of the time you are lucky if you get 48 hours.


2. Should I have a vet inseminate my mare, or a local breeder?
This is one of those things that will come down to location. I do all my own AI and even my vet sends her mares here when she will be breeding AI. It is time consuming and you need to know what you are doing and although my vet knows what she is doing it comes down to many other factors and she is not a repro vet and there are really non around here and I have a very good track record getting mares in foal with AI shipped semen.

3. Here are photos of the 2 studs I picked and my mare; tell me if you think they will be a good match. I do, but I want other opinions!

I have not looked at all the choices so will not comment on that at this point.
     

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