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post #101 of 191 Old 10-02-2009, 08:27 PM
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Sounded like a pretty resonable question to me.

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Sounded like a pretty resonable question to me.
I agree, it was a pretty reasonable question. Whether you are in one of those groups could help everyone else to see where you get your perspective. I have read some of the propoganda put out by PETA, and some of it is just plain lies to get people emotionally to follow them and their ideals.
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I agree, it was a pretty reasonable question. Whether you are in one of those groups could help everyone else to see where you get your perspective. I have read some of the propoganda put out by PETA, and some of it is just plain lies to get people emotionally to follow them and their ideals.
Lies come from all sources, whether they're part of a group our not.
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I personally don't think that the whole "if it isn't slaughtered, it will just suffer" argument is a good one. Because it is NOT acceptable to me that a horse that doesn't have a champion pedigree has to suffer. Some may view this as wishful thinking, but if everyone (or even just a large number of people in general) viewed it as unacceptable, then it would HAVE to change.

Also, to the "if they're going to be dead, they might as well be food" argument - I find that to be ridiculous. We bury the dead of our own species in coffins so that they won't even be absorbed into the earth - it's called "respect for the dead". I don't see any reason it has to be for one creature alone.
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Also, to the "if they're going to be dead, they might as well be food" argument - I find that to be ridiculous. We bury the dead of our own species in coffins so that they won't even be absorbed into the earth - it's called "respect for the dead". I don't see any reason it has to be for one creature alone.
I see no problem with eating anything that's dead. Although, sure, I'd probably find my emotional attachment to certain animals or people interfering with it, I don't see anything wrong with eating anything dead - even human. As far as I'm concerned, it's just not letting something go to waste, ya know?
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I see no problem with eating anything that's dead. Although, sure, I'd probably find my emotional attachment to certain animals or people interfering with it, I don't see anything wrong with eating anything dead - even human. As far as I'm concerned, it's just not letting something go to waste, ya know?
Even Human?!?!
Now that is beyond words

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Realistically, Canada is nowehere NEAR the production of horses as the US is. Obviously that's due to a drastic difference in population. You can't pick up a horse in my area for less then $400, and those are overproduced, albeit papered, stock horse weanlings. I paid $800 for my backyard bred unregistered Paint mare. In all actuality, backyard breeding is actually neccesary around here - we have a very small equine population, and due to the always ocurring natural cycle of things, it also means we have very little by way of "elite" breeding or showing going on. Most people paying big bucks for our Warmbloods are actually from out of province.

What we do have is a thriving number of people tiring of city living and looking into country living. You can make huge bucks on dead-broke old trail horses here - regardless of how fugly they are. Shay-la sold her pony mongrol foals as green-brokish semi-reliable trail horses at 3 years old. She got $2500 and $1500 for them.

It really depends on the locale. Hence why I plan on breeding my Arab mare, the very few Arabs we do have for sale I'm just not interested in. Again though, we have a registered Arabian gelding who's competed in a handful of endurance rides selling for $4,000!

Obviously this is going to change tons as these city gone country people starting making their own fugly misfits and the population grows, but for now, it just shocks me when I hear of trained horses selling for $50 at auction!

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I see no problem with eating anything that's dead. Although, sure, I'd probably find my emotional attachment to certain animals or people interfering with it, I don't see anything wrong with eating anything dead - even human. As far as I'm concerned, it's just not letting something go to waste, ya know?
Agreed! I laugh so hard when people freak out about cannibalism - duh, humans are nothing but meat, same as animals. If I was stranded on a desert island, dang skippy I'd be looking for ways to kill whoever was with me and sustain myself! It's called survival - amazing what we'll do when it comes down to it.

Either way, it's ridiculous how we waste. When my grandpa was a boy, they had a mink farm. Anytime some farmer had a rogue horse or old knacker who couldn't work anymore, my grandpa and his brothers would bring the horse home, shoot it and grind it up for mink food. Supply and demand. Haha, they even fried up a horse steak once! He said he didn't much like it, very "sweet" tasting, not in a good way. That and likely the old work horses were so muscled up, the meat wasn't much palpatable anyway.


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Agreed! I laugh so hard when people freak out about cannibalism - duh, humans are nothing but meat, same as animals.
Actually if I'm not mistaken you can't really eat DEAD one. You have to kill first and do whatever needs to be done. You can't just pick up the dead cow and start eating, because it may poison you. So apart from the desert island (ha-ha-ha!) you can't just go ahead and kill human to eat. Lol!

Personally I would NOT be able to kill animal but I have no problem to eat meat (like pork and chicken). And I don't eat my own animals - they are part of the family whether you like it or not. But... Some cultures eat dogs, some horses, so roaches - it's the way they are and I don't see anything wrong with it (indians (from India :) ) probably horrified on us eating beef too (even though I don't like/eat beef myself)).

BTW, as for all this vegetarian thing (except when people do it for the health reasons only) some cultures consider the plants to be alive. So when one eat the carrot, someone should "kill" the carrot first (meaning pull it from the ground).
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Oh no, obviously! I'm pretty sure I'd die or get pretty dang sick anyway if I ate raw dead human But good point, we're flying to Cuba in January, maybe I should make it a point to learn how to make a fire out of sticks in case we crash! Nah, who am I kidding, someone is BOUND to have a lighter on board that survives!

*giggles* Ok, I'll stop being morbid now.

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