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Sickem Doc Olena's "Lena" foaling thread.

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#1 ·
I deem this my new mare's foaling thread. The owner first thought she was only 5 months along, she is HUGE and that baby moves to the point where two people can be standing on both sides and see it move at the same time. So I say she is going to pop, the foal they thought was hers that was about 5 months old was a bay.. Makes no sense because she is a paint and the sire is a paint, the only one that was running around with her.

It was dark by the time we got home, I'll post new ones tomorrow after I groom her.

Oh and the quality of living is just for tonight. She had to go into a small paddock for safety from my stubborn mare and her "boyfriend" of a gelding. Tomorrow we are fixing the fences that the gelding keeps getting out and putting a gate on the stable so she can stay in there at night for foaling and afterward to keep the foal safe.

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#4 ·
She is going to be gorgeous. I bet the baby will be gorgeous as well. DO you have a pic of the sire?
I have a very bad one that was off of craigslist, if it will even load.... Nevermind, I must have deleted it and the craigslist posting is gone now. Darn.. He was very stocky and well built. Probably close to 15 hands.

I would have my vet recheck her to see if she is further along than 5 months. From the pictures I would guess closer to 9 months.
I'm thinking about doing that, though I'm actually guessing further then 9 months, though not to sure as her udders are full because she had two foals nursing off of her. One wasn't hers, the other was her yearling which was her last foal.
 
#5 ·
So can you take a picture of her udders? I ask because if they are full then you could be within a couple of weeks to a couple of days of having a foal. What color was the sire?
 
#6 ·
I can get a picture of them tomorrow, I think she is a bit sensitive on her udders because she doesn't like being touched all that much. The sire was a black and white paint, he had a bald face like an overo but the white crossed all along his body, maybe like tobiano.
 
#8 ·
I don't think it was her foal, she is to far along to have the youngest of her two foals be 5 months. Her yearling is a paint from the same sire, there were bay mares in with her so it is quiet possible that she adoped the little guy. I guess we will see if she foals quiet soon with a non premature foal.
 
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I got her today, the people before me rescued her from another man who was only selling her foals and not feeding her or the other mares that was with her

A Bay is a VERY likely outcome from a sorrel and black paint pairing. If neither parent is Homozygous for a paint patterned gene, then the foal could very well come out as a Solid baby but what I see and hear, she looks too big to only be 5 months along and it would mean she was bred in October and a breeding in October at all is fairly Rare(In Northern Hemisphere).

Lena is Gorgeous though! Can't wait to see her filled out with a healthy foal next to her! :D I hope it comes out looking half as gorgeous as momma and Daddy!

By the way, He's a Medicine Hat Overo. :D

and -nudge nudge- this was still in my Inbox from when you sent it to me a couple days ago :D

Thanks. :D That helps a lot
 
#11 ·
A Bay is a VERY likely outcome from a sorrel and black paint pairing. If neither parent is Homozygous for a paint patterned gene, then the foal could very well come out as a Solid baby but what I see and hear, she looks too big to only be 5 months along and it would mean she was bred in October and a breeding in October at all is fairly Rare(In Northern Hemisphere).

Lena is Gorgeous though! Can't wait to see her filled out with a healthy foal next to her! :D I hope it comes out looking half as gorgeous as momma and Daddy!

By the way, He's a Medicine Hat Overo. :D

and -nudge nudge- this was still in my Inbox from when you sent it to me a couple days ago :D

 
#14 ·
Your new mare could very likely be only five months along. Most older mares who have had many foals, look pregnant even when they are not, so it's no surprise she's big early on. OR she is further along, like you think. OR she has twins. Let's hope she really is five months along so that you can have 6 months to get her back up to nice healthy weight and condition. Good luck!
 
#18 ·
I don't know how any one can tell much from those pictures as they are too dark to see much.....IF she is close to foaling I would be concerned that she will not have any colustrum as a result of her being nursed off....so I would have an alternate source on hand and would definitely test the milk at the time of foaling and then test the foal at the 12 to 18 hour mark to see what levels his antibodies are at.

If she is in poor weight I would start by adding some alfalfa to her diet......it is a good source of calcium for growing bones.

Super Nova
 
#19 ·
I will get more pictures in a little while. We had to put up fences today to protect her from my mare, evil witch. Now she is calming down with a gate between her and the mare and a new strong fence between her and the gelding. Last night I about had a heart attack, this girl broke through our paddock and was gone for two hours before we noticed. So we decided to put her with the gelding and mare for the night, they both chased her around for ten minutes before we got ahold of them. We were already planning to fix everything so they would be separated at night and until everyone calmed down with her, this is just a set back.
 
#20 ·
Your vet can do a palpation on her and tell you how far along she is. IF she is close to the end of her pregnancy they can feel the baby not to far in. It is just a good idea for you to know how far along she is and your vet can also tell you what to feed her. I hope that you have started her on a mare and foal feed. I personally would get timothy and orchard grass for her.
 
#43 ·
I had my mare palpated throughout her pregnancy. My mare was palpated at 5 months, 9 months, and a week before she foaled. My vet told me that everything is good with the foal. I had her palpated to make sure that the baby hadn't turned the wrong way.
 
#22 ·
Though can they ultrasound? Just curious on that one, I wouldn't do that to her all that much. She is so malnurished everything is sucken in..

This is where you can see how wide she is from the pregnancy.
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Picture of her udders today, they look so miserable. D:
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Shows how easy you can see her hipbones and ribs.
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Not sure if this picture shows it off or not, but you can see her backbone all the way to her tail almost.
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None the less she is beautiful to me, I put fly ointment on sores where flies have ate her skin raw and put fly spray everywhere else to help out. I think she is pretty thankful for that, when I stayed out for a little while she didn't have any on her.

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#23 ·
My understanding is if they can't reach the foal to palpate then the ultrasound also won't be able to pick up the foal.....as it can't see around corners which is what you would have to do to see beyond the pelvic floor.

Boy she sure in undernourished.......I would have her eating really good quality hay......a mixture of timothy, orchard and alfalfa 24/7....the pasture she is on is not near adequate for a pregnant mare in her condition unless she is also consuming 40/50 lbs of good quality hay.

Good luck with her hope she has a healthy foal with no problems

She also appears to have a roached back.

Super Nova
 
#25 ·
That makes sense to me.

We are getting some alfalfa hay to also give as well as free choice quality hay. It's not the best but I don't want to freak her out with to much of a change, the people who reposed her from the owner who starved her had a pasture worse then ours. Also she is only in a paddock in her pictures, she gets a pasture for about 3-5 hours a day plus mare feed three times a day.

Though in your opinion am insight for assuming she is way farther then 5 months?
 
#24 ·
"Yeah that" to everything Super Nova has said. She is EXTREMELY undernourished. And I think she definitely looks only 5 or 6, maybe 7, months pregnant to me. Good, now you have time to get her healthy again. Like SP said, good alfalfa/timothy hay will do wonders. Plus a mare and foal feed. Good luck again!
 
#28 ·
You can't always go by that. Doesn't always mean that she got pregnant on her foal heat and/or she could go longer or shorter than the standard 340 day... You seriously need to get a vet out and have her palpated. It would give you a better idea of where she is at in this pregnancy.

I also agree that she needs good hay in front of her 24/7 as well as a good mare-in-foal feed.
 
#30 · (Edited)
Well her udders suggest (they look like they might be starting to bag up but its hard to tell from that angle) that she is about 9.5 to 10 months along.....mares usually start the bagging process 4 to 6 weeks from foaling........but her belly says she is more likely around 5 months to 6 months and if that is the case that would be a cause for concern as there should be no bagging at this stage.......only if there are going to be issues with her retaining the foal..........so I would definitely have a vet out to check her over.

To be honest she doesn't even look pregnant to me especially that side picture......her belly may just look enlarged due to the starvation and having no topline.......is this her first foal.....if so that could explain it.

Her udders may be slightly swollen due to seasonal change in hormones especially if she has had a foal in the past

Super Nova
 
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