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    04-03-2011, 03:33 PM
  #21
Weanling
Actually you can only palpate till the 4th or 5th month and feel a foal......after that the foal is down behind the pelvic floor and can't be felt....at that time you would have to rely on blood work.

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    04-03-2011, 04:07 PM
  #22
Yearling
Though can they ultrasound? Just curious on that one, I wouldn't do that to her all that much. She is so malnurished everything is sucken in..

This is where you can see how wide she is from the pregnancy.
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Picture of her udders today, they look so miserable. D:
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Shows how easy you can see her hipbones and ribs.
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Not sure if this picture shows it off or not, but you can see her backbone all the way to her tail almost.
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None the less she is beautiful to me, I put fly ointment on sores where flies have ate her skin raw and put fly spray everywhere else to help out. I think she is pretty thankful for that, when I stayed out for a little while she didn't have any on her.

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    04-03-2011, 05:59 PM
  #23
Weanling
My understanding is if they can't reach the foal to palpate then the ultrasound also won't be able to pick up the foal.....as it can't see around corners which is what you would have to do to see beyond the pelvic floor.

Boy she sure in undernourished.......I would have her eating really good quality hay......a mixture of timothy, orchard and alfalfa 24/7....the pasture she is on is not near adequate for a pregnant mare in her condition unless she is also consuming 40/50 lbs of good quality hay.

Good luck with her hope she has a healthy foal with no problems

She also appears to have a roached back.

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    04-03-2011, 06:17 PM
  #24
Weanling
"Yeah that" to everything Super Nova has said. She is EXTREMELY undernourished. And I think she definitely looks only 5 or 6, maybe 7, months pregnant to me. Good, now you have time to get her healthy again. Like SP said, good alfalfa/timothy hay will do wonders. Plus a mare and foal feed. Good luck again!
     
    04-03-2011, 06:18 PM
  #25
Yearling
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Originally Posted by Super Nova    
My understanding is if they can't reach the foal to palpate then the ultrasound also won't be able to pick up the foal.....as it can't see around corners which is what you would have to do to see beyond the pelvic floor.

Boy she sure in undernourished.......I would have her eating really good quality hay......a mixture of timothy, orchard and alfalfa 24/7....the pasture she is on is not near adequate for a pregnant mare in her condition unless she is also consuming 40/50 lbs of good quality hay.

Good luck with her hope she has a healthy foal with no problems

She also appears to have a roached back.

Super Nova
That makes sense to me.

We are getting some alfalfa hay to also give as well as free choice quality hay. It's not the best but I don't want to freak her out with to much of a change, the people who reposed her from the owner who starved her had a pasture worse then ours. Also she is only in a paddock in her pictures, she gets a pasture for about 3-5 hours a day plus mare feed three times a day.

Though in your opinion am insight for assuming she is way farther then 5 months?
     
    04-03-2011, 08:52 PM
  #26
Started
I would be free feeding her good hay 24/7.
     
    04-03-2011, 09:47 PM
  #27
Yearling
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Originally Posted by Juna    
"Yeah that" to everything Super Nova has said. She is EXTREMELY undernourished. And I think she definitely looks only 5 or 6, maybe 7, months pregnant to me. Good, now you have time to get her healthy again. Like SP said, good alfalfa/timothy hay will do wonders. Plus a mare and foal feed. Good luck again!

We will definitely see, I say if her last foal was the yearling she would be foaling in about a month, if we don't have a foal on the ground by then, well I would say her last foal was the 5 month old.
     
    04-03-2011, 10:11 PM
  #28
Trained
You can't always go by that. Doesn't always mean that she got pregnant on her foal heat and/or she could go longer or shorter than the standard 340 day... You seriously need to get a vet out and have her palpated. It would give you a better idea of where she is at in this pregnancy.

I also agree that she needs good hay in front of her 24/7 as well as a good mare-in-foal feed.
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    04-04-2011, 07:13 AM
  #29
Started
The vet can ultrasound and judge by the size of the eye socket how far she is.
     
    04-04-2011, 10:47 AM
  #30
Weanling
Well her udders suggest (they look like they might be starting to bag up but its hard to tell from that angle) that she is about 9.5 to 10 months along.....mares usually start the bagging process 4 to 6 weeks from foaling........but her belly says she is more likely around 5 months to 6 months and if that is the case that would be a cause for concern as there should be no bagging at this stage.......only if there are going to be issues with her retaining the foal..........so I would definitely have a vet out to check her over.

To be honest she doesn't even look pregnant to me especially that side picture......her belly may just look enlarged due to the starvation and having no topline.......is this her first foal.....if so that could explain it.

Her udders may be slightly swollen due to seasonal change in hormones especially if she has had a foal in the past

Super Nova
     

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