Smokey Black Solid Paint

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    10-11-2012, 03:02 PM
Smokey Black Solid Paint

I'm still learning about the creme, splash, frame, and sabiano genetics, but what are the odds of getting a smokey black with a bay? Also, with solid paint breds are there any chances of getting paint markings with a qh? I figure that it's not very possible?
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    10-11-2012, 03:14 PM
For a solid horse it would need to be bred with a homozygous paint. You will know for sure you will get a paint coloring. As for the smoky black all I know is if you bred the bay to a grullo homozygous for black and dun then you have a higher chance of getting grullo or bay dun. Google the horse color calculator
And you can figure out possible foal colors.
    10-11-2012, 03:24 PM
"Solid" horses still have pinto patterning genes if they have white markings at all, so the genes are there. It's perfectly possible to get a loud pinto from two minimal parents.

As for the odds of getting a smoky black from a bay, with no information about the other parent, 0%.
    10-11-2012, 03:28 PM

Just a little white. I just looked at both parents. No paint markings on them, but the sire is AQHA/APHA reg.
    10-11-2012, 03:30 PM
Even that small amount of white is caused by a white pattern gene (probably sabino). So the possibility is there for a louder expression.
    10-11-2012, 04:23 PM
Originally Posted by MyLittlePonies    

Just a little white. I just looked at both parents. No paint markings on them, but the sire is AQHA/APHA reg.
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    10-11-2012, 11:10 PM
My little ponies - the photo you posted, I don't think is a bay. Is this the Bay you speek of???
    10-11-2012, 11:14 PM
I think she/he is a Silver Bay in that photo
    10-11-2012, 11:33 PM
Originally Posted by Spotted    
I think she/he is a Silver Bay in that photo
That horse is either a really sunfaded black..or the smoky black mentioned in the OP. It looks nothing like a silver bay.
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    10-12-2012, 12:11 AM
The one posted is a smokey black. I was refering if I crossed her to a bay like my stallion.
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