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    03-20-2013, 04:27 PM
  #31
Yearling
Cess Bee ...
ProvideIt Multi Vitamin & Minerals for Horses

Jenny has done (and is still doing) much research into this AND she continues to help people with horse problems and time and time again she finds that the horses with (especially) Head Flicking, laminitis and mare reproductive syndrome are all grazing clover (or it is in the hay) When this is removed the horses invariably come right - I've seen it myself with three of my horses.
To get the scientific backing is an expensive process - and to be honest with this country ruled by dairy farmers to whom the last thing they want to hear is that we need to get rid of the very grasses they all plant - it ain't going to happen
Also I meant to add that feeding SALT 3 tbsp in the case of your mare - a day in feed is essential ESPECIALLY when the grass is growing so quickly...
And here's why that is...
ProvideIt Multi Vitamin & Minerals for Horses
Scientific references are available for this...

Salt and Trace Minerals for Livestock, Poultry and Other Animals by Larry L. Berger, Ph.D.*
*Professor of Animal Nutrition, University of Illinois, Urbana, Illinois, 1987
Principles of Anatomy & Physiology 8th Edition Tortora & Gabowski
Electrolyte Basics by: Nancy S. Loving, DVM July 01 2008, Article # 12000Oral

Potassium for Endurance? By: Susan Piscopo, DVM, PhD October 01 2005, Article # 6174 Nitrate Toxicity and Sodium Deficiency Associated with Hypomagnesemia, Hypocalcemia and the Grass tetany Syndrome in Herbivores. T.W. Swerczek, DVM, PhD.
     
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    03-20-2013, 04:28 PM
  #32
Yearling
Oh and I meant to add Holly bubbles - your mare looks great - good luck with the foaling and keep us posted - she's gorgeous
     
    03-20-2013, 08:49 PM
  #33
Weanling
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Cess Bee ...
ProvideIt Multi Vitamin & Minerals for Horses

Jenny has done (and is still doing) much research into this AND she continues to help people with horse problems and time and time again she finds that the horses with (especially) Head Flicking, laminitis and mare reproductive syndrome are all grazing clover (or it is in the hay) When this is removed the horses invariably come right - I've seen it myself with three of my horses.
To get the scientific backing is an expensive process - and to be honest with this country ruled by dairy farmers to whom the last thing they want to hear is that we need to get rid of the very grasses they all plant - it ain't going to happen
Also I meant to add that feeding SALT 3 tbsp in the case of your mare - a day in feed is essential ESPECIALLY when the grass is growing so quickly...
And here's why that is...
ProvideIt Multi Vitamin & Minerals for Horses
Scientific references are available for this...

Salt and Trace Minerals for Livestock, Poultry and Other Animals by Larry L. Berger, Ph.D.*
*Professor of Animal Nutrition, University of Illinois, Urbana, Illinois, 1987
Principles of Anatomy & Physiology 8th Edition Tortora & Gabowski
Electrolyte Basics by: Nancy S. Loving, DVM July 01 2008, Article # 12000Oral

Potassium for Endurance? By: Susan Piscopo, DVM, PhD October 01 2005, Article # 6174 Nitrate Toxicity and Sodium Deficiency Associated with Hypomagnesemia, Hypocalcemia and the Grass tetany Syndrome in Herbivores. T.W. Swerczek, DVM, PhD.

That is not a proper scientific article, she uses one reference, which I cannot find has been published in a scientific journal (I am at University and have access to scientific databases), the author has however had other articles published, which are in the equine field and have been peer reviewed by extension, the article you linked was published through The Horse, which is not a Scientific Journal, so has most likely not been correctly peer reviewed and should not be considered as true fact without further investigation.

I am scientifically minded so I take those sorts of "proofs" with a grain of salt, especially when they are being used to back up a product.

Sorry to derail your thread OP, but these are things to be considered, a feed company will have their feeds properly analysed for average content per 100grams/1k/what ever measurement they choose to use, so you actually will have an actual idea of what the content of the premixed feeds are. Every horse is different and you cannot just say what the horse is over or under dosing on without having a blood test done.
     
    03-21-2013, 04:13 AM
  #34
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Yep, she gets salt too, though I prefer to leave a salt lick in her paddock than put it in her feed. Her and Mitch both have one each and I see her at it atleast once a day, Mitchell not so much.
Maybe My dad is a different breed of dairy farmer since he's resowing paddocks slowly, in to grass that is not rye.

I will post lady bit photos when I'm back on my laptop, I'm on dads one and I'm sure he wouldn't be impressed if I had pregnant-mare-lady-bits saved to his photo files

She only has a small edema in front of her udder, her udder itself is not any bigger than in the last udder photo, but her teats are swollen looking, and when I checked tonight the ends of her teats looked wet, but there was nothing to indicate that she should pop any time soon. And honestly, I think her belly is still pretty small, she gains weight so easily nobody would know she was a tb if it weren't for her brands
     
    03-21-2013, 07:04 AM
  #35
Started
Alright, I have my laptop now, Lady-bits photos I still think she has a way to go before this foal arrives, but at least if i'm taking pictures of parts I wouldn't normally, then I can keep an eye on changes? Right? 'Cause I see her every day, several times a day, and don't really think she is changing.

I'm sorry DJ, your bits are going on the internet
Please excuse the lack of cleanliness, I didn't have my "cleaning gear" on me yesterday (baby wipes and baby oil or KY normally)

She has had a bit of clear discharge out of her vulva today and yesterday, mum noticed it before I had a chance to get up close and personal. I'm not sure what that means, so I figured I would keep an eye on it in case it changes or anything, it wasn't much, only a few drops worth, maybe enough to cover my pinky fingernail?... At least she is getting used to me being all up in her personal bits, she will almost willingly relax and move her tail over for me now. Must be so degrading having a human touch and feel like that every day, and take the camera out.

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    03-21-2013, 07:06 AM
  #36
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Oh, and somebody please remind me NOT to google things like vulva discharge, it just brings up all the Pregnancy Complications websites O.O
Mousie96 likes this.
     
    03-21-2013, 07:17 AM
  #37
Started
Knowing my luck, that single drop of discharge would have just been a drop of pee hangin out afterwards or something silly
     
    03-21-2013, 08:47 AM
  #38
Weanling
Going off the under pics she has a fair ways to go yet, though if she is a maiden like you think, she may not bag up really until the day of, if so have the vet ready to administer colostrum as needed as the mare is unlikely to be making enough for those crucial first hours.

Another thing with Maiden mares is they don't often follow the "broodmare rule book" so to speak.

Her vulva is looking relaxed, her tummy while big has not really dropped down into that V shape yet.



This is my mare 18 days before foaling.

And her udder less than 48 hours before foaling.




I do hope things go smoothly and you have a lovely foal out of her, she will certainly be contributing some good genes from her end, here's hoping the stallion wasn't a complete trainwreck.
     
    03-21-2013, 07:51 PM
  #39
Foal
Subbing :)

She's a pretty mare! I hope all goes well for you.
     
    03-25-2013, 04:26 AM
  #40
Started
She was a little strange tonight. Walking around uncomfortably with her tail held high and standing like she needed to pee, but wouldn't pee.
Mitch was being stupid and bucking at her, and every time she jumped to get out of his way she would pee a little, but that was the only time she peed
     

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