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  • When a horse is sold in foal who pays the stud fee
  • Buying a mare in foal who pays stud fees

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    04-24-2012, 10:58 AM
Thank you for your reply. I figured as much, that's why I have never said anything to them. And I did the breeding certificate and all that, had to pay and submit a breeding report for my now gelding. Cost me quite a bit for my little mistake but I handled the papers so they could register it. However, with that being said, I feel I should have at least been offered a stud fee of a couple hundred dollars but then again, my mistake, so I just hope he has a good life and I chalk it up to bad luck, lesson learned.
Thanks again.
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    04-24-2012, 11:01 AM
Agree with the others, they bought the mare, that means that she and the foal are both their property now. If you want the foal back, have you offered to buy it back at weaning? That's what I would do...after apologizing profusely for selling them a mare that was bred and not advertised as bred.

You have no claim to a stud fee. They did not request the mare get bred, she was bred due to a mistake on your part, simple as that. I would be pissed if a person sold me a mare that they did not know was bred, then came back and demanded a stud fee for a breeding and foal that I didn't want and didn't ask for....on a mare that I'd already given money for.
    04-24-2012, 11:04 AM
In one sense, they could also have come to you looking for the vet bills involved with the birth. As you said, the horse was not sold pregnant (as far as anyone knew) but actually was. It wasn't something they were expecting but it cost them money that they didn't have to spend.
    04-24-2012, 11:06 AM
Foals belong to the mare owner.

Unless they're willing to sell you this foal you're out of luck, and asking them for a stud fee when she was sold as NOT in foal is tacky and completely unrealistic.
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    04-24-2012, 11:06 AM
It wasn't an advertised sell, just two friends, one wanting a good old horse for their kids and the other having one that would be perfect for them. She was 19 and I practically gave her to them. And no, I never offered to buy him because the kids fell in love with the foal. Just was curious.
    04-24-2012, 11:11 AM
I'm baffled by your sense of entitlement. You actually, possibly imposed on them without knowing, and then were going to ask for a stud fee????

It's their horse. How many ppl do you see on here who got a surprise foal after buying a mare?? Should they pay the idot who didnt take necessary precautions? It is your loss. Let it go.
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    04-24-2012, 11:13 AM
Please note, I have not, nor will I ask for a stud fee. Nor have I asked for the horse back.
I would apprecaite not being called an idiot. I never claimed to be a professional. So please be respectful. I am trying to be sure I handled this correctly, which it seems I have.
Thank you all for your replies.
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    04-24-2012, 11:15 AM
Why don't you offer to buy the foal now? Who knows, maybe they don't want it and will just give it to you.

I agree with the others on the rest of it, I would not have been happy if I'd bought a mare and wasn't told she was pregnant. That's a bunch of vet bills I wasn't expecting, mare out of commission for awhile, another mouth to feed, AND now I have to train a foal if I want it to have any chance at a decent life.
    04-24-2012, 11:18 AM
Technically, you could offer to buy the colt. They may want to sell just because horses are expensive to maintain. If not, there would be no grounds to do anything. Another person mentioned that they could have actually asked for reimbursement for expenses due to the foal, you're very lucky they did not. If these are friends, you could ask if they are in the market to sell him.
    04-24-2012, 11:24 AM
Being at the age of 20 plus when she was accidentally bred by the weanling to bad you didn't have her double check ed by the vet to make sure she wasn't preganant.
It must have been quite a surprise to the new owners..
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