Which stallion is best?!?!?!?! - Page 3
 
 

       The Horse Forum > Horse Breeds, Breeding, and Genetics > Horse Breeding

Which stallion is best?!?!?!?!

This is a discussion on Which stallion is best?!?!?!?! within the Horse Breeding forums, part of the Horse Breeds, Breeding, and Genetics category
  • Ss orion arabian stallion breeding
  • Powered by vBulletin breed motorcycle club

Like Tree7Likes

 
LinkBack Thread Tools
    02-14-2012, 05:07 PM
  #21
Weanling
What are your plans with the foal?
     
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
    02-14-2012, 07:47 PM
  #22
Foal
Quote:
Originally Posted by Horseygirlsmith    
I haven't purcased the mares yet, but plan on doing so. Here are the mares I am considering getting. I can only buy one maybe two.

Sweepstakes Registered 15.2hh Arabian Show Mare (I need to find out what her registered name is, breeding includes Huckleberry Bey.)-



Gray Registered Arabian Mare, 13 years old aha# 0559493.-




Bay Arabian Mare, 9 years old aha# 0604208.-




I am most interested in the first one, she is pretty expensive though, just within my bugget. The other two are brood mares, with little training.
First one doesn't appear to have a very good hind end. (this is not uncommon in the Huck bred horses). The other two I can't tell anything on bc of the photos.
     
    02-14-2012, 07:52 PM
  #23
Foal
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dreamcatcher Arabians    
I would not consider Napayshni because he JUST came 2 and has done nothing. The first and 4th are just......well......never mind. Titan C again has done nothing according to data source and so again, I probably wouldn't consider him either.

What are your goals for breeding? Do you have a particular discipline you're aiming for? Are you wanting halter quality? Or just a good trail type horse?

For the person who didn't like Bey Shah, he has sired a HUGE number of winning performance horses. He was a halter horse primarily, but he has sired some very athletic get.

*Padron may not have been real happy under saddle but again, he sired some amazingly athletic and performance producing get. My stallion Il Divo is double *Padron and does Hunter Pleasure, Western Pleasure, Trail and goes out on trail, and Halter and SHIH and is headed toward Western Dressage. And his brothers and sisters are also very athletic. So blanket statement against certain stallions needs to be weighed very carefully by looking at what they've produced and what those horses have and are producing.

***10 min edit time frame got me again.......grrrrrrrrrr****
Sure he has sired a ton of performance horses. If you consider WP a performance horse, or hunter pleasure. Hopefully, most people have slightly higher aspirations than that. It's not very athletic to have to jog in place. It's exercise, but hardly athletic.

Racing, endurance, working western, dressage (past training level), hunter/jumper (over actual fences.. like they do in the real world and not in arabian-lala land), Park and English Pleasure (somewhat) are athletic. WP and HP (which in arabian land is WP with a tack change) are not. Maybe you can convince some of the other arabian people it is, but even most of them know it's not. Saying those are "performance" horses is like saying a Mall walker is the same thing as someone who runs marathons.
     
    02-14-2012, 08:12 PM
  #24
Yearling
I agree with basically every one else(: Titan C is SUPER GORGEOUS, &he obviously has alot of beautiful babies. Maybe post a pic of your mare?
     
    02-14-2012, 08:34 PM
  #25
Started
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tapperjockey    
Sure he has sired a ton of performance horses. If you consider WP a performance horse, or hunter pleasure. Hopefully, most people have slightly higher aspirations than that. It's not very athletic to have to jog in place. It's exercise, but hardly athletic.

Racing, endurance, working western, dressage (past training level), hunter/jumper (over actual fences.. like they do in the real world and not in arabian-lala land), Park and English Pleasure (somewhat) are athletic. WP and HP (which in arabian land is WP with a tack change) are not. Maybe you can convince some of the other arabian people it is, but even most of them know it's not. Saying those are "performance" horses is like saying a Mall walker is the same thing as someone who runs marathons.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinions. Some people prefer one discipline over another, one kind of body type, one kind discipline. And those horses that jog in place? Not exactly a leisure stroll in a mall. Some like fast and hard and others don't, but it doesn't mean that they aren't athletic or capable to do so. There are many disciplines people breed for and thinking your idea is the only one that is correct is a bit narrow minded. Don't you think?

I have seen a much smaller rear end on a stallion that some people may like the looks of, even if it isn't a good quality. That particular stallion also had many other conformation faults.

If you don't like popular, successful stallions, fine. Leave it at that. Judging a horse by someone in their pedigree isn't fair to the horse itself is, what it actually inherited and what it has or could produce. If the mare is a little weak in the hip, breed her to a stallion who isn't. Improve minor faults through careful breeding. My rant is over
     
    02-14-2012, 09:10 PM
  #26
Trained
The 2nd mare, Aliceta has a really nice pedigree. Beythoven MC X Wri-Tua a Baske Tu granddaughter.

The 3rd mare, Bay Contessa Tu, is also really well bred. BUT, a lot of the B-Tu get and relations are not real big in size. Exquisite lookers but some can be pretty small and produce small, if that's any consideration.

Based on the pedigrees for those 2 mares, I wouldn't recommend ANY of the stallions you've shown.

Can't say for the first mare til I know a name.
     
    02-15-2012, 12:08 AM
  #27
Foal
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dreamcatcher Arabians    
The 2nd mare, Aliceta has a really nice pedigree. Beythoven MC X Wri-Tua a Baske Tu granddaughter.

The 3rd mare, Bay Contessa Tu, is also really well bred. BUT, a lot of the B-Tu get and relations are not real big in size. Exquisite lookers but some can be pretty small and produce small, if that's any consideration.

Based on the pedigrees for those 2 mares, I wouldn't recommend ANY of the stallions you've shown.

Can't say for the first mare til I know a name.
Her name is Chantuse, but I wasn't able to find her pedigree on All Pedigree, maybe you could find it. Thanks! That's good to hear that they have good breeding. What I want in the foal is a small but good jumper, all around horse, for we do a lot of trail riding and pony club.
     
    02-16-2012, 09:54 PM
  #28
Foal
I wouldn't choose any of those stallions for what you want.
     
    02-18-2012, 03:41 AM
  #29
Foal
For a jumping prospect, i'd probably contact Stanley Ranch Spanish Arabians . They have some great field hunters that they do show as well. One of their stallions S S Orion is semi retired now, and is now doing some 3rd level dressage for fun. He's a cute jumper.
     
    02-18-2012, 11:06 AM
  #30
Started
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tapperjockey    
for a jumping prospect, i'd probably contact Stanley Ranch Spanish Arabians . They have some great field hunters that they do show as well. One of their stallions S S Orion is semi retired now, and is now doing some 3rd level dressage for fun. He's a cute jumper.
Not sure if the OP is looking at $2500 stud fees. The stallions she posted are much less expensive. My sister bred a grade quarab to a champion Arabian pleasure driving stallion and got a beautiful colt. He is now a teenager and is doing great in dressage and jumping, being used by a teenage girl in Pony Club. The sire had a stud fee of only a couple hundred bucks, and he made beautiful foals with smooth gaits. My point is, you don't need to pay thousands of dollars to get a talented, athletic foal. IMO
Posted via Mobile Device
     

Thread Tools

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
So what do you think of this stallion? myhorsesonador Horse Riding Critique 5 03-27-2010 09:21 PM
The right stallion mikibells123 Horse Breeding 2 09-03-2009 07:39 AM
What stallion to look for? Starryeyed Horse Breeding 2 08-22-2009 12:05 AM
which stallion? chika1235 Horse Breeding 27 01-16-2009 10:45 PM
how old does a stallion have to be! Gammelquarterhorses Horse Health 11 01-12-2007 12:30 AM



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:59 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0