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        06-06-2007, 12:27 PM
    We have one stallion, our black/white tobiano paint, and we also have a palomino stallion prospect AQHA who is a yearling now. (we always raise ours from a very young age. So far, if he continues with his looks and personality (his pedigree is awesome) then he will get to keep his manly parts. 8) We've had 2 other palomino prospects who are now geldings because they ended up not being all they could be.

    We have about 10 brood mares right now. Mostly paints and QH but we do have a TB mare and an Arabian mare. The only foal we had last year was out of our Arabian and he is awesome. I'm so proud of them both.

    I would LOVE to show pics of my stallion, but I don't know how to post photos. If someone could explain it to me, that would be great.

    You are so right about the personalities putting them over the top. Our stallion is just like that. He looooves people. He is a perfect gentleman to all his mares. All the mares LOVE this guy. It's funny. He doesn't crash through fences, or jump them to get to the girls. But THEY crash them and jump them to get to HIM!!! (the hussies!) I've never seen anything like it. :roll:
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        06-06-2007, 02:04 PM
    That is neat that your stallion is a paint :) Paints are not as popular up here as QHs, but I have fallen in love with the unique color patterns! Do you get a lot of color out of your qh mares? Just curious :) My stallion is not homozygous, and we bred him to our qh mare (if she takes) - I am really hoping for color. I know it is all about the odds :) She has a bit of roaning and some nice white socks - maybe this will increase her odds.

    I know what you mean about the attitude changing. We got my stallion at age two, and he was a doll. I constantly watched his attitude to see if he needed to be gelded, but he is still an angel. I was at a nearby training arena last night, and another horse rammed into his butt. He just got this really surprised look, and then went right back to standing quietly. I would not want to breed my stallion if he was not this kind/calm. I have a palomino gelding who is a fabulous athlete, but I could not imagine him a stallion with his attitude (he is territorial aggressive in his pen). I hope your palomino stays sweet :)

    That is funny what you said about the mares breaking down the fences. That is how we found out our mare was in heat this spring. She broke out, and ran over to my stallion's pen, backing her rear up to the fence!

    To upload photos you click on the "upload picture" button that is on the page where you write your reply. It brings up a little window that says browse. Click on browse and find the picture that you are looking for in your files (it will show all the files on your computer). I always put the photo I want on my desktop ahead of time just so it is easier for my to find quickly, but if you have a good photo album, that would work just as well. You then click on the picture and select open. The photo will then be attached and will show in the box next to the browse button. You then select send, and might have to wait a couple of minutes. It will then show your picture and give you the option to insert your picture: "standard". Click on standard. The photo should then be inserted into your reply and you can type above or below it. When you submit, the photo will show. Good luck :)

    Photo of my stallion and I on a competitive trail ride :)
        09-14-2007, 04:40 AM
    Hi there, I used to work on a large breeding farm and my job was often to hold the mare's during breeding. Many of them where old pro's but a few where hard to keep still. I know it may sound cruel but the thing that worked best for us was a twitch. If used properly they are quite humane, and the pressure on the lip actually causes an endorphin release. Many vets are taught how to use them in school and do so on the job quite often for safety. Here is an article I found about it that has some good information and advice.

    Also, we would never cover the same mare two days in a row. We would always do it every other day. After the mare had been covered three times we would wait to see if she came back in heat. If she didn't we would have the mare checked to make sure she was in foal. If she did we would breed her again. This site has some good information on breeding and explains a little more in detail.

    Wishing you the best,
        09-15-2007, 08:30 PM
    Did you try hobbling the mare? I've read that's what you do to keep mares from kicking out but our mare was bred using artificial insemination......
        09-15-2007, 09:26 PM
    We never hobbled the mares. Before I started working there one actually broke it's leg when they used them. So that was the end of that.
        09-15-2007, 10:45 PM
    You're right Piper, a twitch is a good tool to use. (If used properly of course) When it comes to our stallion, we like to hand breed, and then if necessary we use the twitch. We never use hobbles either. IMO an accident waiting to happen. Possibly if you are experienced it won't be a problem, but we aren't, so I don't want to use them. If a mare can't be controlled with a twitch, then they won't be bred to our stallion. He's worth too much to be injured.
        09-16-2007, 01:00 AM
    I'm glad to hear you agree, some people seem to think it's cruel. All I know is it works well for certain situations. I have never seen it cause any ill effects when used correctly. If it does not work it can be removed quickly, no harm done.

    I also think you are right. If a mare will not stand, even with a twitch on, then live cover is not the best way to go.
        09-16-2007, 03:47 AM
    Nope, not cruel at all if used properly.
        09-16-2007, 04:50 PM
    Thanks for the additional advice. That is scary about the hobbles. The twitch is an interesting idea..I will check out the articles and see if my vet can show me how to use one for the future. Our mare went back into cycle after the first breeding, so we bred her again, and she is now in foal, so it will be a couple of years before we breed her again. I wonder if the twitch would have worked in her situation...she was very willing to breed and setting up well, she just fidgeted a lot with her back end when he was trying to cover her as if she was preparing to be knocked off balance at any moment.

    Can anyone explain what the theory is behind breeding every other day? We did every day the first cycle, every day the couple days of the second cycle, and then we put them in together for the remainder of her cycle. Obviously if I open my stallion next year, I will not turn someone else's horse loose with him, but our mare and him worked really nicely in together and were able to get the job done better without humans in the way. Our mare is in foal, but if other mares are here for a limited amount of time, I want to have the best odds for successful breeding.

    Another question that came up was with the mare's tail. We had the upper part wrapped, but the rest of it still seemed to get in the way.

    I have yet to decide whether to open my stallion for breeding next year, but if I do, it will be for a very limited number of mares. He is still in training, and advancing very well, so that is where my focus with him is, but a lot of people have been asking when I am going to open him up. I know that a lot of people open their stallions much earlier (he will be six next year), but I just don't feel in any hurry. It seems like the more events he competes in, the more interest people have in breeding their mares to him (go figure :) ).

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