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post #11 of 18 Old 05-24-2012, 05:41 PM Thread Starter
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What is your mare's breeding??

The size of the stallion has little bearing on the size of the foal in the womb, it will only grow as big as the mare lets it (is what I have heard at least).
Which stallion to breed to depends on the lineage of your mare. You might want to look into Dancier as another Donnerhall stud with good offspring and I would highly recommend a Florestan stallion, Freestyle is a very good choice (assuming you are in NA).
I would recommend also breeding more towards a very ridable horse than something with fancy movement. Freestyle's offspring are proving to be very amateur friendly, but still with movement and power to win in the ring.

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I agree with temperament. I want amateur friendly before movement. My mare is Wordly/Graf Remus. She gets the smaller stature from Weltmeyer. I have always heard great things about the D line temperament. I would like to have a little more bone as well and I know some have that. I had always heard that the the stallion size will not affect foal size either, but for some reason, maybe given her age, my vet seemed a little concerned. Don Schufro is over 17 hh and very substantial. Since she is maiden he didn't think her first foal should come from such a large stallion. Either way, he knows better than I do so I need to listen. But it does limit my choices. Sigh..I was also looking at Devon Aire or Donnarweiss too. They are smaller and have the bloodlines that I like. But I will look into Freestyle for sure, thanks!
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I was breeding my maiden who is 14h to a 15h stallion this year and it's live cover. It isn't terrible to go a hand over the mare. The foal only gets as big as she can stand.
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I agree with temperament. I want amateur friendly before movement. My mare is Wordly/Graf Remus. She gets the smaller stature from Weltmeyer. I have always heard great things about the D line temperament. I would like to have a little more bone as well and I know some have that. I had always heard that the the stallion size will not affect foal size either, but for some reason, maybe given her age, my vet seemed a little concerned. Don Schufro is over 17 hh and very substantial. Since she is maiden he didn't think her first foal should come from such a large stallion. Either way, he knows better than I do so I need to listen. But it does limit my choices. Sigh..I was also looking at Devon Aire or Donnarweiss too. They are smaller and have the bloodlines that I like. But I will look into Freestyle for sure, thanks!

The other lines to look into are Runbenstein I, in particular his son Rotspon. My horse is a Rotspon and I love him so I am a bit biased :P But Rotspon is a small stallion, throws lots of bone and a great temperament, so he might also be a good choice for you too.

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Remember that every vet has their own opinion. My sister had two vets give check her mare the year before she was bred. Her vet saw no problem with breeding her maiden mare while the other was convinced that because of her weight (way easy keeper) that she would be killed by the pregnancy or labor. Her colt is almost a month old and she is a wonderful mother.

There is no real evidence of breeding a stallion that is taller than the mare to cause problems. But like any person, they are free to make their own opinions no matter the topic. I have met many people that would never ride a pregnant mare and would advise others to do the same. The size of the stallion does not affect the foal's size at birth, they may sprout much faster after birth though. Even so, you could breed to a 18h stallion and get a foal that matures at 16h or breed to a 16h stallion and get a foal that matures at 17+h. IMO
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The other lines to look into are Runbenstein I, in particular his son Rotspon. My horse is a Rotspon and I love him so I am a bit biased :P But Rotspon is a small stallion, throws lots of bone and a great temperament, so he might also be a good choice for you too.

Good Luck!

I have always loved the Rotspons too. I had three of them. All imported and from different **** lines. One grew to be 17.2 hh and ended up with wobblers from a strain of EPM that he was (unknowlingly) imported with. The other (as a foal) was so high strung, he killed himself trying to jump a fence. And the other had such a dishonest disposition under saddle that I sold him to a trainer who could deal with his bucking fits. He is now going well and a force to be reckoned with in the arena but it took a long time. But I personally have not had great luck with them. However, they are stunningly beautiful and great movers. I would use him in a second if I'd had better luck! But I wouldn't rule out other Rubinstein blood.
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I would go for Don Schufro,I've ridden a mare by him and out of a Ramiro dam and she was drop dead gorgious with very good gaits.

You could also have a look at Diamond Hit (Don Schufro x Ramiro).

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I'm a huge fan of Dancier! There is a stunning 5 year old son of his standing not too far from me and I would just about kill for one of his bubs!

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I've seen some very nice Dancier's around, a weanling sold for $22k recently from the same stud that I got my youngster from, by Dancier out of a Pommery mare. Very nice filly!
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