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  • Shouldabeenacowboy paint stallion
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    07-06-2008, 04:32 PM
  #1
Yearling
Stallion Identity?

Hey can any of you find information about a breeding stallion.
I just need to know what he looks like.

He is a registerd paint horse named shouldabeenacowboy
Just like that no spaces in it.
     
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    07-06-2008, 04:37 PM
  #2
Trained
I found this
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/shouldabeenacowboy
Not much info, but it gives his pedigree
     
    07-06-2008, 09:22 PM
  #3
Weanling
Sorry, couldn't find anything but those are some poor bloodlines and to have the same lines on top and bottom is a big "no no"...screams inbreeding.
     
    07-07-2008, 03:41 PM
  #4
Yearling
I don't care about his bloodlines. He's my horses sire and I was thinking about breeding her but she is a solid paint and I needed to know what her parents looked like so I know what patturn she has. :)
     
    07-07-2008, 03:55 PM
  #5
Super Moderator
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Originally Posted by irisheyes12
Sorry, couldn't find anything but those are some poor bloodlines and to have the same lines on top and bottom is a big "no no"...screams inbreeding.
It's not inbreeding, it's line breeding and I'm not a big speed eventer person but I THINK I'm pretty sure those are speed lines...

Is he short and stocky w/ a big butt?
     
    07-07-2008, 04:34 PM
  #6
Green Broke
I found a horse for sale by the same stud...it has spots :)

http://www.horseville.com/php/view.php?id=151568
     
    07-07-2008, 04:56 PM
  #7
Super Moderator
OH! Farmpony jumps up and down clapping hands and giggling... I GEUSSED SPEED EVENT!!!! LMAO....
     
    07-09-2008, 05:23 AM
  #8
Yearling
Well, I don't want to fork over the money yet to renew my apha membership online access, so I can't look him up on apha (but you should), but from what I can tell from the all breed database, is that she has Tobiano paints a couple generations up, and that one out of the same sire listed for sale was also Tobiano. You might, therefore get Tobiano, but so many other factors play in (sire's color).

If breeding a solid paint mare, I would probably breed to a homozygous stallion to ensure color.

We bred our heterozygous stallion to our solid aqha mare and got great color in the colt, but it was a 50% risk a solid. We took that 50% partially because the mare had bloodlines I really like.

You say that you don't care about bloodlines, but they are 100% important to look at when considering breeding those lines on. I don't know her lines, but if they are speed lines, that would be pretty neat to look into.

Take your time looking for the perfect stud (performance, pedigree, progeny, conformation, and proven color). Also, if I were you, I would spend a few more years proving her as a performance horse in some area, and really firm up her training, before breeding her.

Pregnancy and being a nursing mom horse takes a lot out of your horse and will limit what you can do with her, not to mention that it complicates everything.

I didn't even offer Dez for breeding until his training was really far along, and I had shown him a couple of years (and what do you know, I decide to geld him :) ). I kind of feel like if you are going to breed an animal, you should at least make an effort to prove he/she is worth it to at least the community around you (just the way I feel about my own horses).

I know your girl is still young, so I hope you can give her at least a couple of years to prove herself, and find her real talent in life, so you can hone it in before having to deal with her and motherhood (and possibly changing).

I am curious to hear more about your mare's lines. AND, like I said, the pattern your girl will throw also depends on the stallion you choose, but I see Toniano in her lines. Choosing homozygous will help you know what you will be getting.

I am also curious about what was said above...if anyone knows much about line breeding...what is considered acceptable? What is unacceptable for how closely related horses are that are bred together...Looking at pedigrees can sometimes be highly interesting. :)
     
    07-09-2008, 06:00 PM
  #9
Green Broke
I agree you should find a homozygous stallion.... and I would reccomend staying away from the Chief Blackhawk line just to be on the safe side... it's only line breeding when it works, but when it doesn't it's inbreeding
     
    07-17-2008, 03:06 AM
  #10
Started
Just a question what do you paln to do with this foal?
     

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