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    01-26-2011, 01:42 PM
  #21
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by candandy49    
The best advise I got when I decided to breed my AQHA registered mare was to breed to better stallion than what my mare has as far as conformation for the most part. My mare's first born was by a TB stallion, her second and third born were by a AQHA Cutting bred Stallion.

Your mare's foal would be a keeper in your eyes, because you love, understandably, your mare and that would pass on the her foal. However, in the event something unexpected happened to you or your ablility to keep all your horses which one or ones could/would you keep? I am not trying to change your mind about breeding your mare. Just some "food" for thought.
Oh i've already taken this into consideration
I had a filly in 08 who my full intention from the day we bred my mare was to sell her so I chose the stud with the best confo & bloodlines.

The following year I bred to my favorite stud on the farm for an 09 baby as I intended to possibly keep the foal. She was exactly what I wanted looks & temperment wise, however that year feed was pretty sparse & very expenise so I gave the foal to my friend. I didn't sell her because I still wanted to be able to see her & watch her progress & my friend has yet to sell a horse lol so I know she'll be there forever.

I don't intend to breed until, as I said, this summer or next when I know the fencing will be complete and therefor i'll have more room for another horse. Right now we only have the one pasture fenced off & are feeding all year round

In my area, i've found that many people are like me in the sense that they couldn't care less about bloodlines, so long as the horse is sensible & handsome/pretty. This is why I am looking for a stud that will offer these attributes.
     
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    01-26-2011, 01:48 PM
  #22
Yearling
Your mare is a beautiful girl and looks like a true Black. She has a solid Black nose and muzzle while if she had any shade of Red or Brown on her nose or muzzle she would not be a true Black. I'd bet she doesn't get sunbleached either. If she does then she's not a true Black.
     
    01-26-2011, 01:58 PM
  #23
Banned
Wait, your mare isnt registered?

I agree with others, those studs are fugly.

Why are you wanting to breed?
     
    01-26-2011, 02:16 PM
  #24
Yearling
I have no clues as in what you are going to do so. I've found some stallions here:

All-around - Proven Apha Halter Winner That can Ride

Online Video! Superior Western Pleasure Apha Stallion.

They didn't put up a lot of info but they said go to his site to learn more bout him
Black & White Homozygous Tobiano Stallion

I don't know what his stud fee is the same or if it changed
16.2 HH B&W Tobiano Double Reg. Apha & Ptha Stud Servic

I'll find more if you like any of these. I know there all PRETTY, but there the only one's on stallionnow that could find that could back of there color. As in actually accomplished something. I like the first one the best. I only looked in Albert. Can there semen be shipped?
     
    01-26-2011, 02:20 PM
  #25
Yearling
Also I don't know what breed, the hight, or how much you'd pay so I keep it under or at 500. (I like looking for horses so...........)
     
    01-26-2011, 06:24 PM
  #26
Green Broke
Just an FYI, there is practically no such thing as an Arabian stud who will ONLY cover registered mares. As long as the stud is registered, every single foal he sires can be registered as a 1/2 Arab so there is a VERY lucrative business in breeding Grade mares that most Arab stallion owners will not pass up. In fact, it's typically quite a bit cheaper breeding a Grade mare (often half the cost of breeding a registered mare).

It's something to consider, as there is zero guarantee you will keep the foal for life and I'm not aware of a huge market for Fjord Arab crosses.
     
    01-26-2011, 06:45 PM
  #27
Started
A few things make me want to *headdesk*:


You should be looking to get a better horse (one that is suitable for the things you want) than one that is "just pretty." im not saying pretty is bad but look at other things first. For example:
1. Conformation
2. Temperament
3. Training/record, no not all studs should have a show record but if the are doing something they should be doing it better than others.
4. Foals temperaments and trainable-ness, work record if they have one. Again this isn't important unless you want to see how his foals turn out.


The last this should be color IMO. Color is just the icing on the cake.

Second is why breed a "grade" mare? There are soooooooooooo many horses without home due to careless breeding, so why not go to an auction and pick out a foal. What happens if you lose your job and can't afford horses? And what if you have to sell your grade foal?

Im my honest opinion, either but a foal that you want or breed to an arab stud so you can have a reg. Half arab. (i think that's how its done. But im not 100% sure)
     
    01-26-2011, 06:45 PM
  #28
Banned
I will never approve of grade horses being bred, but if the above poster is correct (which im 98% sure she is) then an arab stud is the way to go. No offense to your beautiful girl, but most owners of QUALITY AQHA studs will not breed a grade horse.
     
    01-26-2011, 06:46 PM
  #29
Banned
Quote:
Originally Posted by Erin_And_Jasper    
a few things make me want to *headdesk*:


You should be looking to get a better horse (one that is suitable for the things you want) than one that is "just pretty." im not saying pretty is bad but look at other things first. For example:
1. Conformation
2. Temperament
3. Training/record, no not all studs should have a show record but if the are doing something they should be doing it better than others.
4. Foals temperaments and trainable-ness, work record if they have one. Again this isn't important unless you want to see how his foals turn out.


The last this should be color IMO. Color is just the icing on the cake.

Second is why breed a "grade" mare? There are soooooooooooo many horses without home due to careless breeding, so why not go to an auction and pick out a foal. What happens if you lose your job and can't afford horses? And what if you have to sell your grade foal?

Im my honest opinion, either but a foal that you want or breed to an arab stud so you can have a reg. Half arab. (i think that's how its done. But im not 100% sure)
absolutely 100% agree!!!!!!
     
    01-26-2011, 08:43 PM
  #30
Green Broke
Quote:
Originally Posted by MacabreMikolaj    
Just an FYI, there is practically no such thing as an Arabian stud who will ONLY cover registered mares. As long as the stud is registered, every single foal he sires can be registered as a 1/2 Arab so there is a VERY lucrative business in breeding Grade mares that most Arab stallion owners will not pass up. In fact, it's typically quite a bit cheaper breeding a Grade mare (often half the cost of breeding a registered mare).
I say this as the Arab studs i've looked at so far say that they are only willing to breed to registered Arab mares (which is silly to me). I would personally prefer an Arab cross as well as I love the QH & Paint breeds but would like the refinedness of the Arab & am not going to buy a broodmare just for the foal to be pb.

I believe I stated my reason for wanting to breed, not buy but just incase... I'm not willing to spend thousands of dollars on a registered foal when I can buy one for that amount fully broke & bloodlines mean very little to me. Around my area, there are few that care whether the horse is pb so long as it is a good horse (looks are a bonus).
I could get a cheap foal, but there's no knowing how the parent's are unless you go by the owner's statements (and people have a tendancy simply to tell you both sire & dam were good horses)
Atleast this way i'll know the mare & can take my time deciding on a good stallion. I also like working with them from day one.

Now, the stallion I do choose to breed to will most likely be registered (as there are few advertised that arent). If bred to a paint or QH I know the foal will be registerable either way (with the Pinto Association or the American Half QH Association) so i'm not worried. Even if she's bred to a smaller stud/pony breed I can still register the foal with the American Quarter Pony Association.

Ideally I would prefer the foal to mature between 14-15.2hh. Not too picky in this area, however. My mare is 15hh. I like horses with a bit of muscle but not too beefy.

Oh and candandy49, thanks she is true black & never bleaches out In fact she has nice blue/grey dapples all year round.
     

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