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post #1 of 100 Old 01-10-2011, 02:55 AM Thread Starter
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Question STALLION. What do you think of this boy!? APHA

So I inquired this boy a couple months ago and have been up in the air on what I should do with him....geld him.... or keep him as a stallion. We are experienced horse owners and he would be our first stallion. I have also worked on a breeding farm (30 bred a season) so have the experience and we have the facility and know how for breeding. Just looking for other opinion on him and a critique, be as harsh as you want :) Ill attach pictures that I have but will make sure to get some better. (don't mind the picture with his foot in the bucket, Daughter thought she would be funny!

Bobby is a 15yr old, 15hh and 1300# Buckskin Tobiano. He is double registered APHA and PtHA. He is Nominated to multiple Futurities also. He is a fabulous Brick of gold color with huge beautiful dapples. Bobby has produced 99% color on all mares to date and 99% buckskin and grullo colors. He passes on and sweet mellow personality to all his foals. His foals are winning in the show rings too! This boy has great performance and Halter horse bloodlines. Bobby is a great riding horse that excels in the cow work, he is a great trail horse too.
This stallion really is an unbelievable boy, with his sweet mellow lovable personality any one can handle him! He can be pastured with babies, geldings, share fence lines with mares or pastured with bred mares in the winter and you would never know he is a stallion. He is Very sweet, gentle and romantic when it comes to breeding time (pasture or hand bred). Check out his breeding:

Wildcat Bobby Luck Paint

So what do you think If you would like to see pictures of his foal just ask!

bobby3.jpg

bobby1.jpg

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He has his back legs under him in his pic, its just the way he is standing
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In this pic he is standing a bit up hill
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post #2 of 100 Old 01-10-2011, 03:15 AM
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First of all, I am going to assume that you have tested him for frame, or have seen the results if someone else tested him. Not saying that you haven't, or implying that at all. Just assuming, since you know what you are doing, that he is neg.

Is the text about him written by you or his previous owner? I don't want to get too nit picky, but it is kind of false advertising to say that he throws grullo. Since he is buckskin, the grullo obviously came from the dam, not the sire, as grullo is a dun horse with a black base coat. Also, it is false advertising to claim that he has produced 99% colour - to be able to say this, he should have 100 foals on the ground, of which only one was a solid non dilute. Ok, sorry, just a pet peeve of mine.

On to the horse. I see him being slightly sickle hocked in some photos, and more so in others. He has a nice, short back, which I like. He also has a decent slope to his shoulder.

Personally, I think he is nothing spectacular, and therefore I would cut him. It is my opinion that breeders should be breeding to improve the breed, not to produce more horses. While he is a nice looking horse, fairly well put together and sound and sane, there are literally hundreds, if not thousands of stallions out there in this breed that meet those qualifications. You would have to pick mares very carefully to ensure that his offspring are better than him, and those mare's owners would probably rather breed to a stallion who is closer to perfect.

Just wanted to add, imagine he had hair "down there" he would have a white tip on a dark winkie... just something to laugh about lol

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post #3 of 100 Old 01-10-2011, 03:57 AM Thread Starter
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Chillaa,

He has been tested for frame/owl ect. He was negative. :)

Text is written by me with what I have been told and what I know. Thanks for the throwing grullo feedback, you are right it would come from the Dam, I need to reword it. And for the 100 foals on the ground, he does for a mater of fact :) He has 117 foals! The people I got him from owned him his whole life and kept a portfolio. The one horse that wasn't colour or buckskin/grullo was a solid bay filly (bred to a bay Dutch Warmblood).

Hahaha...on the down there joke... thanks for the feedback!
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It is still only a 50% chance of him passing on a cream gene. It's like a coin toss - just because you have tossed 100 heads in a row doesn't mean the next one has a higher chance of being heads.

Anyway, I will drop it. It is a pet peeve of mine, and I don't mean to ride your back on it lol.

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post #5 of 100 Old 01-10-2011, 10:25 AM Thread Starter
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I understand you.
I was just pretty much saying he has "sired" 99% colour and 99%Buckskin/Grullo, well because that's the truth.
All said, Ill have to post pictures of some of his foals. :)
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pretty horse!!!!!
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post #7 of 100 Old 01-10-2011, 10:49 AM Thread Starter
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Some of his foals!!

2005 buckskin filly.jpg

buckwheat (Bobby foal 2002).jpg

mocha (Bobby Filly).jpg

Jax Half Arab 2008.jpg

Keno (2000 Colt).jpg

2009_Grulla_filly.jpg

Buckskin 2006.jpg

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I have so many more... I was hoping to get most of his fancy ones on here but the pics are to big. But all these foals are still beautiful!
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his foals are gorgeous and so is he!

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omg!!!!! Sooooo cute!!!!!!! I luv the pictures!!!! My fave is the last one!!!!!!! :):):):):):):):):):)
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I say, "keep" him. But I'm a bit of a sucker for buckskins.

Conformation: His conformation looks nice from the pictures you gave us (Although you can't really judge conformation without a squared up side shot).

Color: he's a buckskin. And nicely marked.

Temperment: You say he has a wonderful personality. And I'll trust you on that judgement.

Record: Does he have a show record? If he is winning at the disiplines he is showing in, then that is a great plus for keeping him a stud.

Foals: They are beautiful. If they have the temperment and ability (if not better) than Bobbys, I'd keep his boy parts.

Lovely horse! And welcome to the horse forum!!
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