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post #1 of 31 Old 08-08-2010, 12:37 AM Thread Starter
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starting a breeding business.

start with broodmares first, working them up in the show world?
Or start with stud first, gaining publicity?
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post #2 of 31 Old 08-08-2010, 12:23 PM
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Start with mares. IN the end you will do better and make more money. By the time you prove a stallion promote him it will be many many years and a lot of money. Figure at least $10K a year in just promotion.

With mare you control everything. Who you breed her to and much more.

I have had both mares and stallions. I make a lot more with my mares then I do with the boys.

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Excellent mares will take your program farther than any stallion ever would. Plus if you get good mares and promote them, then you can chose what stallion best suits them and it provides more flexibility to your program than getting a single stallion would.

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The greatest mares you can buy, paired with the best stallions you can find, equal unrivaled quality of your offspring. I'd leave the stallions to other people, and focus on creating a fantastic mare barn. Proving your mares in the show ring, paired with proven stallions, will produce the kind of babies people want.

Not every foal will be 'THE BEST AND GREATEST EVER' but you'll have a massive chance of getting said foal with quality parents from the start. For example, my gelding Loki's sire and dam have produced fine quality offspring, and are of good quality themselves. Their not shown, but good nonetheless.
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mares for the win. Haha
Twogeldings that was incredible advice, "Strive for perfection, and perfection you are likely to achieve." Its so pretty as well as very inspirational, thank you! =)


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Very useful information for me as well. I will now go back to stalking studs and stallions.

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start with broodmares first, working them up in the show world?
Or start with stud first, gaining publicity?
Right now, neither. The market is really bad in the US and isn't likely to get any better until the economy recovers. If you wanted to buy a few nice (young) mares now and start showing them, that might work, but make sure they'll be breeding sound for at least 10-15 years, as it may take that long for the economy (and horse market) to recover enough to make it profitable again.
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I have always thought what way I would do it. I think I too would start with mares, but if I got an exceptional colt that was worth keeping whole, I would be stuck. Part of me would want a good quality stallion of my breeding standing somewhere, so I might try to sell him. The other half of me would want to geld him (probably a late geld just to let him stallion up a little) and show him. That way you have a show horse with your stud name attached, who is a good specimen of the breed, and isn't prone to the temper or seasonal issues of either stallions or mares. I think I would definitely swing in the geld area.
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Right now, neither. The market is really bad in the US and isn't likely to get any better until the economy recovers. If you wanted to buy a few nice (young) mares now and start showing them, that might work, but make sure they'll be breeding sound for at least 10-15 years, as it may take that long for the economy (and horse market) to recover enough to make it profitable again.
To stop breeding horses is not the solution, to breed what is marketable, talented, and has a good disposition along with excellent conformation is the answer, match a mare with a stallion that compliments them. That, in my opinion, is the solution to the poor equine economy.

I'm going to say mares as well. You can match your mares with all the up and coming popular stallions.
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To stop breeding horses is not the solution, to breed what is marketable, talented, and has a good disposition along with excellent conformation is the answer, match a mare with a stallion that compliments them. That, in my opinion, is the solution to the poor equine economy.

I'm going to say mares as well. You can match your mares with all the up and coming popular stallions.
Well yes, but now is NOT the time to START a breeding business, unless you have a lot of money to buy proven stock or the time and money to buy young stock and work on proving them in the show pen. It will be years, maybe even another decade, before the economy and horse market recovers enough for the price of horses to come back up to a profitable margin, especially if you're having to pay for stud fees on quality stallions.

Just think about the money needed not only to buy the horses, but also feed them, pay for vet/farrier/care costs, pay for show entries, travel fees, show equipment, training fees (if you hire a trainer to help), etc. This will be in the tens of thousands quite quickly for just one mare. To make breeding profitable, you have to consider all of these costs, plus the stud fees and mare care, compared to what you can realistically expect to sell the foals for...
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