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post #21 of 60 Old 05-18-2012, 12:28 AM
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Wow. With all the story in place, I can't imagine what you had to go through Piaffe, or now what the OP is going through.

I really hope you get your yearling back. =(
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post #22 of 60 Old 05-18-2012, 12:31 AM
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This is some tricky stuff. Twice this same farm is accused of shady dealings. In less than a year. I'd be freaking out if it was my yearling. I hope you get your filly back!!!!

Repo laws work the same for animals as they do for cars correct? She lost any money she paid into the horses when she defaulted on the payments if so.

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post #23 of 60 Old 05-18-2012, 01:02 AM Thread Starter
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They have her listed for sale many places. Looks like the latest is this one.....
'Raven Ridge' at Warmbloods-For-Sale.com

She is stunning.

It is really not our business, but perhaps the breeder, who has her, feels like they paid for her? You said they paid you some, then stopped paying, and then you got back your mare and foal. Perhaps they think you are "even"? Just a guess on my part. They certainly are not trying to hide her, and for her price, she will likely go to a good show home. Guess from what I see she is not "at risk" so to speak.
in the contract is states that at any time of default the contract will be terminated and money will not be returned. i did offer to pay her back her VERY SMALL downpayment in exchange for my filly to which she lied about and refused.
i wish people were easy.....

i know they are not trying to hide her, just trying to hide her from me/make it difficult for me to find her and pick her up. She, the breeder, has made it hard for numerous people to find their horses having used the neighbors lot before to stash some.
she is not at risk so to speak as she is geared towards and upper market, but that doesn't mean she will not get caught up in a liquidation sale....
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post #24 of 60 Old 05-18-2012, 01:05 AM
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So... Can you somehow get someone to call & say they are interested in her, and somehow get her back that way?
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post #25 of 60 Old 05-18-2012, 01:13 AM
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Now, OP, of course you should double check everything suggested here with your lawyer because, as I'm sure you know, what is legal where I live might not be legal where you are.

Now that I've said that. I would really see about having her charged with theft. If the filly is legally yours and the breeder still has possession of her (and is trying to sell her, no less) then she is essentially stealing the filly. Because she is trying to sell the filly as her own, she could likely be charged with fraud along with the theft. The filly being what she is, I'm quite certain that she's worth a pretty large lump of money, so a theft of that amount would be a felony and the breeder could end up with prison time. Which, IMHO, they should.

Plus, if she's charged with stealing the filly, you might have a better chance of getting her back as the police could go and seize her as evidence of the theft.

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post #26 of 60 Old 05-18-2012, 01:14 AM Thread Starter
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maybe....hard part is so someone wants her but then how do they get her off the property? and even if they locate her and are in sight of her, how do they do about getting police involved?
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post #27 of 60 Old 05-18-2012, 01:19 AM Thread Starter
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Now, OP, of course you should double check everything suggested here with your lawyer because, as I'm sure you know, what is legal where I live might not be legal where you are.

Now that I've said that. I would really see about having her charged with theft. If the filly is legally yours and the breeder still has possession of her (and is trying to sell her, no less) then she is essentially stealing the filly. Because she is trying to sell the filly as her own, she could likely be charged with fraud along with the theft. The filly being what she is, I'm quite certain that she's worth a pretty large lump of money, so a theft of that amount would be a felony and the breeder could end up with prison time. Which, IMHO, they should.

Plus, if she's charged with stealing the filly, you might have a better chance of getting her back as the police could go and seize her as evidence of the theft.

yes, i agree fully! anything over 10k according to my lawyer is grand theft thus a felony! so she qualifies!

while i do not wish this breeder any harm, i realize it is not in my control anymore. she is responsible for her actions. she is an adult. she is acting in illegal ways. she is making herself eligible for jail time. so if she ends up in jail, i hope she has a cell mate not from the equine world.........
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post #28 of 60 Old 05-18-2012, 01:25 AM
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Who has this filly's registration papers? It would suck if it's Jill, then she has the filly's papers and can sell her and the new buyer would never know.

I feel so bad for you OP!

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post #29 of 60 Old 05-18-2012, 01:30 AM
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If you still have that filly's papers I'd be contacting every site she has her listed one and having the adds removed TODAY.

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post #30 of 60 Old 05-18-2012, 01:34 AM Thread Starter
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here is the real kicker! Jill was impossible to get breeding cert. from....so after constant begging and no success my filly ended up missing the inspection. so she isn't registered! and jill says and is marketing her as an oldenberg but she is not one!!!!!
i have proof of breeding payment, and the contract stating me as owner, i own her mother and her two other siblings and have a title on her from when she was born when i transferred ownership between my family members for insuring reasons!!!
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