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        09-25-2009, 03:03 PM
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    Weanling
    Thinkin of breeding

    My mare is 5 years old, I'm thinking of breeding her, but I don't have a set year or anything. I'm not sure what I want to breed her too though. Any suggestions? I wanna breed her to something with some spunk but not too much. I also want something tall and build uphill.
    My mare is built downhill, and she's very calm and relaxed. Her registered name is Royal Badland Sprint. The reason I want something with more spunk is because I wanna be doing gymkahna events with it. Thanks and here are some pictures!













         
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        09-25-2009, 03:10 PM
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    Showing
    Is she registered?
    In my humble opinion, she has front legs that I would not want to see bred in. Sorry, but she is not extraordinary to me, and doesn't scream "replicate me!" So I say no to breeding her.
         
        09-25-2009, 06:26 PM
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    Originally Posted by JustDressageIt    
    Is she registered?
    In my humble opinion, she has front legs that I would not want to see bred in. Sorry, but she is not extraordinary to me, and doesn't scream "replicate me!" So I say no to breeding her.
    agreed 100%. Add in that she is built downhill and is just your "average" mare with a less than average conformation. Please don't breed. Thanks.
         
        09-25-2009, 06:51 PM
      #4
    Weanling
    Thats why I want to bred her to something built uphill.
    Yes she is registered.
    I'd like to know what to breed her to because I really like her attitude and that she's really willing to please. She's also a very thickly built mare.
    She would really good at working cows, but I want something to do gymkahna. I don't wanna buy something off someone else, cause I like to raise and train my own horses. Thanks
         
        09-25-2009, 06:57 PM
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    Showing
    There is no guarantee that your mare's personality will be imprinted on the foal.
         
        09-25-2009, 07:18 PM
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    Green Broke
    No offence, but there is nothing particularily 'superior' about this horse.

    Why not *buy* a new horse rather than breed another backyard pony?
         
        09-25-2009, 07:34 PM
      #7
    Yearling
    The only way to even kind of guarantee that you'll get something with the attitude you want is if you get a horse that isn't started yet. Then you could work it the way you prefer, and not have to worry about mom's conformation being carried on.
         
        09-25-2009, 07:52 PM
      #8
    Yearling
    Okay, maybe she isn't perfect. I don't look for beauty, I look for personality. Breed her with a stallion that has a good disposition. The foal will be for you and only you so why not get a horse you want?

    I think you should breed her. I totally understand where you are coming from. I have a pintaloosa colt. Most people frown on 'graded' or other horses like that, but to me, it's the personality that counts. My colt's sire was registered paint, we own him, excellent disposition (disposition is passed down) but make sure the other half, has a good disposition as well.

    I say go for it =]
         
        09-25-2009, 08:34 PM
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    Okay, maybe she isn't perfect. I don't look for beauty, I look for personality. Breed her with a stallion that has a good disposition. The foal will be for you and only you so why not get a horse you want?

    I think you should breed her. I totally understand where you are coming from. I have a pintaloosa colt. Most people frown on 'graded' or other horses like that, but to me, it's the personality that counts. My colt's sire was registered paint, we own him, excellent disposition (disposition is passed down) but make sure the other half, has a good disposition as well.

    I say go for it =]

    I'm sorry, but it really frustrates me when people say stuff like this.

    When people frown upon breeding horses with unspectacular conformation, it's NOT because they're being vain or snobby. It's not just "beauty" we're looking for, it's good conformation. Bad conformation is BAD for the horse. You can easily create an unsound, unhealthy horse by breeding horses with mediocre conformation. If you want a healthy foal, buy one who doesn't have a dam with that front end. She's a really cute mare, but she shouldn't be bred.
         
        09-25-2009, 08:46 PM
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    Originally Posted by Flyinghigh12    
    Thats why I want to bred her to something built uphill.
    Yes she is registered.
    I'd like to know what to breed her to because I really like her attitude and that she's really willing to please. She's also a very thickly built mare.
    She would really good at working cows, but I want something to do gymkahna. I don't wanna buy something off someone else, cause I like to raise and train my own horses. Thanks
    if you've never bred before and do not have experience with babies, I highly suggest against it. There's not a single thing about your mare that honestly imo makes her even remotely breedworthy. Her legs are too short for her frame, she's long backed, extremely downhill, and short necked with a coarse throatlatch and legs that well...are far less than perfect.

    Breeding to something uphill does NOT = a better conformed horse. I bred a horse with small ears to a horse with small ears and got a baby with HUGE ears. No idea where they came from but they're there now...

    Point being, you can breed to an uphill horse and still get a very downhill offsrping with bad legs, overly heavy body (your mare is not thick built properly - she's overly stocky which with her legs can lead to soundness issues and makes her prone to navicular and other soundness problems), short neck and squat incorrect conformation. Not only will that horse not be good for gymkhana, it will also be very hard to market and sell....as a rescue I already see enough of "my mare has a great temperament and is very sweet and willing to please so I want to breed her...." please save us all the trouble and heartache.

    Furthermore, having a properly raised baby is in and of itself a full time job and not for the casual pleasure horse owner. It's a lot of work, with a lot of potential issues, and a HUGE amount of expense. Dollar for dollar you can BUY a baby for far less than breeding one. Even better - rescue one of the thousands at auction and you can spend as little as $50...no joke....or go to a breeder and get a quality one for still a great deal without the worry and stress of breeding.

    Is your mare tested for genetic disorders and diseases? Is she hypp n/n? What are her bloodlines with regards to longevity and soundness and health? What are her sire and dam (and grandsire and granddam...etc.etc.)'s conformation flaws? Not just HER flaws can be passed on to the baby, but flaws she carries the genetics for that does not display. Breeding is a crapshoot and if you're lucky you get some of the good qualities from mare and stallion, but not always, and more often than not you get thrown a curve and get something completely unexpected (like my guys ears lol! Thank goodness that has nothing to do with soundness!).

    And if you STILL want to breed....go read the breeding risks thread. Who's going to foal her out? What are potential complications? Do you know how to deal with a breech birth? A stuck foreleg or hind leg? A torn placenta? Premature labor? Overdue mare? What if she rejects the baby? What if the baby has a deformity of some sort? The list goes on.....

    I'm sorry but you don't sound nearly educated enough to be breeding your mare....because if you were educated, you wouldn't want to breed her because you would understand she's not breeding quality. She's a nice horse, but not worthy of being bred imo.
         

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