Thinkin of breeding

THANK YOU I AGREE!

imo only the best of the best should be bred as there are already far too many horses out there. i don't frown on grade horses - and own several - they are GREAT. but i'd never BREED one or BREED to MAKE one. that's just bad breeding.

here's the thread if you think you can stomach it...
Breeding Gone Wrong

Well bred horses are selling very reasonable (some down right cheap!!) that are bred and built for what you are wanting to do. You can see them, evaluate their personality, etc........ A foal is Russian roulette.

I have a performance stallion that I am introducing next year and I am sorry, but I doubt I would breed him to your mare. I am looking for "form to function" built mares to stand him to with the goal being to produce nice, correct horses that are built to work, run, sit and turn AND have the brains and "beauty" to go with it all.
Breeding to your mare will likely produce yet another backyard plug horse that has bad conformation. A lot of these horses are done by the time they hit the teens due to joints tearing up and breaking down and other issues. Plus, if the owner doesn't know or doesn't give a rats butt, they probably need regular chiro visits to keep them aligned and help them live a long, pain free, useful life. Most correct horses benefit from regular chiro, stands to reason how much a bad confo horse could need it. A downhill horse has a lot of the rider's weight slamming down on it's shoulders and withers, which will make it carry its self differently to try to avoid the pain/discomfort, which will cause further issues in other parts of the body. Now you have a bad confo horse with multiple misalignments, that is possibly living with pain and discomfort, but is still very willing and trying to please.

Now, don't get me wrong. I don't knock the backyard horses. My first horse that I did well with was a 14.2 hand, swayed back POA mare. She had a HUGE heart and tried hard for me EVERY single time out. I wanted to breed her and tried 2 seasons. I am so glad that it did not work out now that I look back. There is no guarantee that I would have gotten a foal with "heart" and there was no way I was going to get a top-notch barrel horse out of her with her conformation. Sentimentally speaking, I would love to have had a foal by her, but what I would have gotten...........

You breed correct to correct to TRY to get correct. There is still no guarantee that it will come out correct. These big ranches that are producing top-notch horses also have not-so-great foals that are culled every year. It is a crap shoot.

Your mare doesn't look that bad on paper, but you can't ride papers. Her bottomside is not as strong as her topside IMO. There are not a lot of records close up on either side. Royal Badland Sprint Quarter Horse

CJ82Sky and CloudsMystique, I'm right there with you.

I had a chance to breed my mare that was built very similar to yours because the stud owner liked her personality and color (*sigh*) anyways, I turned him down because I did NOT want her front end passed on.

Listen and learn, OP.

Think about it instead of deciding to do it just for the sake of saying you did it: 'Oh, aren't I a great trainer now????'.

Think of the mare. Think of the baby. Think of the vet bills, 5 years waiting for the baby to grow up, food, space, emergency vet bills, money for trainer, etc.

A foal is a very serious thing. Not to be taken lightly.

My opinion would be going down to you local auction and picking up one that already needs a home.

I've been training horses for a very long time, I've also helped someone hand breed horses. I rode the stud and the mare she bred to him, then i ended up training the baby and alot of the nonphysical traits were passed on to the baby.

Obviously since I've just been thinking about it and wanting to know other peoples opinions. I obviously know the risks and my mare is not some backyard breeders misshap... here's her pedigree Royal Badland Sprint Quarter Horse

Now I want something that is born on the ground on my property because I want to imprint the foal the way I want it. I probably won't even breed her for another 5 years. Just forget it cause i'm not arguing with u guys on this.

Then why did you post if you apparently know everything?

Just wanted to ask, did you really want opinions?

So it sounds to me that you just really want to raise a foal, my first suggestion would be to buy a weanling! Second suggestion, w/ the price of horses these days, why not try and buy or lease a better breeding quality mare! That way you get your foal, make better breeding choices, AND you aren't out any riding time on your mare!

What about going to an auction and rescuing a pg mare!