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post #31 of 37 Old 04-24-2013, 11:49 AM
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Nevermind. Read the thread. So sorry.
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post #32 of 37 Old 05-02-2013, 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by NdAppy View Post
I'm very sorry for your loss, but I have to disagree that the mare and foal couldn't of been saved.

Timely intervention could have turn the foal's head. Iif not a fetotomy can be done... aka cutting the foal out of the dam piece by piece and it would have been inside the mare, not cutting up of the mare to get the foal out. Not pretty, but it saves the mare.. things like this are why it is so important to keep an eye on mares ready to foal. It's an unpleasant subject and is a good thing for anyone thinking of breeding to keep in mind...
This is true. We actually had this happen with our very first mare when I was a little kid. It required the assistance of 3 or 4 vets and the end result wasn't pretty, but it saved the mare.

However, unlike your situation, our mare showed all of the classic text book signs that she was going to foal and that she was in labour. Lucky for her, my mom was watching her in the barn and saw things weren't going right and called the vet.

I'm so terribly sorry for your losses. It's always easy to look back in hindsight and say "if only I had..." but like someone else said, it's hard to be on watch all the time, especially if the mare wasn't showing any signs. It's easy for those of us on here to say this is why it's so important to be vigilant, etc., but chances are, if she showed absolutely no signs of being close, many of us probably wouldn't have started the nightly checks either and any one of us could be in your shoes.

How is your other mare doing, by the way?
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First off, thank you to everyone who has said a little prayer or said something on here in sympathy for me over Rose's passing. It really means a lot to me. :)

Well, after speaking to 2 different vets, and being told that there would have been nothing they could do for the foal except cut it out, and that the mare most likely wouldn't have made it, even if I had been there, I have stopped to think that there is no need to keep worrying about it. It's over now, so I now have twice as much time to watch my other mare, and keep her safe the best I can.

Well, Grace is doing pretty good. I don't have any pictures of her right now because, yet again, I have lost my camera. How do I keep doing this? LOL. I think it's in my room, but it's such a mess, it will take me days to find it, haha.

But anyways.. Grace is doing good. She and the Arabian gelding are out together keeping each other company. She is still really spooky from seeing her friend pass away, and jumps at the slightest sound still, but she is pregressing nicely in her pregnancy. She has been eating that good mare and foal feed twice a day, which I can tell is making a big difference in her milk production. Her boobies are still small, but they are getting there. Her hoo haa is getting a bit more relaxed, but her muscles in her butt are still hard. I did get to see the baby kick some today, which was a relief as I know he/she is still alive in there.

I am really starting to get excited about her. It is almost guaranteed that if she has a regular horse foal, or a mule foal, that it will be very colorful! I have attached a picture of her from when I first bought her, and before I had any idea that she was pregnant, just so you can get an idea of her color. :) If I can find my camera, I will try to get some pictures of her and try to keep this thread going to Grace. Anyways, here is the pretty girl.

Oh, and by the way, I am thinking about changing her name. Since Rose passed away and I have been spending more time with her, Grace just doesn't seem to fit. Any ideas? :) Thanks again everyone for the wonderful, healing comments. It's really helps to know someone out there cares, even if they are on the internet. lol


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post #34 of 37 Old 05-09-2013, 08:10 PM Thread Starter
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I don't know if anyone is interested or not, but I have a question. The spotted mare I still have it acting strange. She has been kicking and biting at her belly. Her udder doubled in size over night, and has gotten a little bigger today. Her hind end is sunken in and her vulva is almost just hanging open, but she won't let me get close enough to see what color it is on the inside.

I thought she had some wax on her nipples today, though her bag isn't as full as most mares (she is maiden, I think anyways). But while I was picking off the wax, or what I thought was wax, I tried to milk her. And she was VERY easy to milk. I wasn't able to get much, but I was able to get a almost clear with a hint of yellow to it (It's kinda hard to tell because it was only about 5 drops that I was able to collect. Considering all the signs and the color of her milk... what do you think? Will it be soon? Or should I not be expecting anything anytime soon? Sorry I don't have pictures - I found my camera under the couch, chewed up and no longer workable. thanks to my dogs... ugh.
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Dont pick at her teats. When she waxes, it will look like white pencil lead coming out . If you think she is in distress call and have the Vet come check her.
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She sounds close to me! I would keep a close eye on her but hard to tell without pics!
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Just read the thread after a little while not visiting the horseforum. So so sorry for your mare and baby not making it through the birth.

My mare foaled in April - 6 weeks after we started making 3 hourly checks on her - my son and I would visit at midnight then hubby would do the 3:30am check (our horses are a 3 mile drive away and in the middle of nowhere so I didn't like to do the night visits alone) then I would resume in the morning.

On the first night that my son and hubby were ill, i'd done the 12am check, missed the 3:30am check and on arriving in the morning at 7am, found Fox and baby doing well - but of course it was the first night in 6 weeks we hadn't checked that she foaled.

So even though we were doing our nightly checks, if anything had happened on that particular night (and a sad as we would have felt), sometimes nature has a different idea to what the outcome is going to be than one that we wish for.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing but alas, we cannot turn back time - we can only do our best in the future xx

Sending hugs and a big prayer that everything goes well with Grace xxxxx
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