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    06-14-2010, 11:33 PM
  #1
Foal
Ugh! Question...

So I thought Missy wasn't pregnant and it was just the grass being so lush that she developed udders, not big one but they were swollen and walnut sized (she's a mini) It's hard to explain. They are as if you put a walnut inside her udder, it's that swollen. Well Because I thought it was nothing I didn't bother to have a vet travel the hour journey to see her... Bad. Her Udder went down and was still not back to it's usual empty state but it was swollen anymore.

Well yesturday I went out there and after being away for a week, her udder is now the size of a small tangerine in each udder. Her teats are slightly swollen and are pointing downward. Her tummy isn't wide, atleast not as wide as I've seen minis get. Some I have seen are so large I'd think twice before walking them through a normal door!! Well Missy isn't wide but she does have a hanging belly, but again it's not huge. I have posted another post of her belly but it seems bigger now. She is laying down alot more, Not sure if that has anything to do with it but it's a change I have noticed. She is either eating or laying down sleeping, which is rare for her to lay down and I use to only ever see her laying down maybe once a month and now it's everyday sometimes 3-4 times a day. Seems odd to me. So I have her seperated in a pen facing my bedroom window so I may look out on her at night and she is alone. She hates it but she needs to stay off grass maybe? I'm not sure. She is 20 now and maybe horsie menopause is playing with her hormones? Not sure... What's ur thoughts?
     
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    06-15-2010, 06:19 AM
  #2
Started
The only way you can be sure is by getting the vet out.
     
    06-15-2010, 09:51 AM
  #3
Foal
I know that, if I could do that I wouldn't be on here but unfortunately that's not an option at this point in time. I was just wondering if anyone had any thoughts on it.
     
    06-15-2010, 10:02 AM
  #4
Foal
I have no experience with pregnant mares but if it was me, I would at least give the vet a call to ask what he thinks.
     
    06-15-2010, 10:36 AM
  #5
Foal
I did call one vet, he said I'd need an equine specialist and he can't make a judgment over the phone. The nearest specialist is 2 hours away and she wanted to charge me $200 to come out then she wasn't sure what she would have to charge once she was here and she just suggested I wait it out. I have asked the amish and no one has heard of horsie menopause, one even said they didn't live to see menopause at his barn! She isn't in pain by any means and she is very healthy, besides this weird udder thing and a big belly but it could be just a hay belly and maybe an overload of grass causing the udder development. The stallion was with her for the past 2 years up till the end of February of this year or maybe it was more into March.. can't remember, I just know the snow was gone. Hehe So no one else has heard of horse menopause?
     
    06-15-2010, 11:04 AM
  #6
Banned
Try a weefoal on her. Its a urine pregnancy test. They are pretty accurate and since you know the last possible date of conception, you know you will need the 'later in pregnancy' test. They are $38 Much cheaper than a vet specialist or an ultrasound. Equine Diagnostics, LLC
     
    06-15-2010, 12:30 PM
  #7
Green Broke
If she was with a stallion up until February, why do you think she's not pregnant?

That seems more likely than horsie menopause. I have never heard of horsie menopause.

I bought a mare last October that was out with a stallion, the guy said he didn't think she was pregnant (maybe that's what he thought I wanted to hear since I was buying her as a riding horse?) and now I am expecting my first foal. I am super excited about it!
     
    06-15-2010, 12:34 PM
  #8
Super Moderator
I don't want to scare you but minis can have a lot of problems during delivery (probably because of their size). They also have a pretty high rate of dwarfism. You definitely want to find out if she's pregnant. Especially at her age.
     
    06-15-2010, 02:05 PM
  #9
Yearling
I would think pregnancy before menopause. Most mares are breedable not sayig they should be bred, but that they CAN be bred) well into their 20's. If she was in with a stud for that length of time, I would definitely think pregnancy. If I were you, I'd get the wee foal test and if it's positive call a vet. I agree with farmpony - mini's seem to have a lot more trouble foaling than average sized horses. I think you may want assistance if she is indeed preggers.
     
    06-15-2010, 02:50 PM
  #10
Foal
Well I have had the stallion for 2 yrs before I sold him because she wasn't getting pregnant and I knew 20yrs old was just too old, she is perfectly healthy and the vet said she seemed healthy enough to deal with a pregnancy and it would be alright. So I tried for 2 yrs then, even though the vet said it was fine to breed her in her early 20's, I decided no, enough was enough. So it was either neuter Ity Bity, the stallion, or sell him and because I had financial tightness I sold him.

She has done this udder development last year and the vet did come out and said it was due to the lush grass playing with her hormones. All she said was keep her off the grass until the udders go away then limit her grass. I have been doing just that and at first her udder went down but when I was away, it grew larger. My mother was watching over her and assured me she had no access to grass at all, just hay and water.

I'll try to get images today to show her belly and udder but because of her age someone mentioned horse menopause or a false pregnancy but if it's either, what do you do to stop it? What do horses do when they are old? Do they stop coming in heat? If so, would that trigger a false pregnancy? She has had one other foal, back when she was around 5yrs old. The pregnancy and labor went fine but she did abandon the foal, but she is also blind in one eye and I think the old owners were too hands on and dryed the baby off before Missy got a chance to see the baby.

She is currently stretched out in the sun, obviously very worried about her health. Haha
     

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