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    07-06-2010, 08:47 AM
  #11
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Heck, we have ultrasounded mares as early as 25 days and you can see the "foal" at that point, although it is a small black sack with a heartbeat in the middle.
I can't imagine a foal hiding if she is at least 5 months along, maybe longer as you stated. Its done rectally and the ultrasound wand is facing down into the uterous....
Good luck, hope everything works out.
     
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    07-06-2010, 09:56 AM
  #12
Foal
Yeah I was hoping for an ultrasound because it's quick and we would know almost immediately but she said she wouldn't want to do it yet, to do the blood test because it's also cheaper and it will show a yes or no before sinking even more money into her.
     
    07-06-2010, 05:06 PM
  #13
Foal
Was she running with a stallion? Or did he get in with her at some point?
A blood test will not be the most accurate way - as even if they have lost a fetus they can still produce the hormones and give you a false positive, surely for the sake of a few bucks it is better to get her scanned so you know for sure and you're not wasting money feeding an in foal mare that isn't actually in foal?!!
And no you can't hear a foals heartbeat at all even in the later stages of pregnancy - the only thing you'll hear is gut/heart sounds from the mare - you will how ever see it move in the last 3 months if you know what you are looking at.
     
    07-06-2010, 05:32 PM
  #14
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Interesting that she wants you to spend the money on a blood test that is not real accurate since the blood has to be shipped and the temps are not the best for shipping. If it turns out as unreadable or whatever, then she will want you to do an ultrasound? Sounds as if this is a way to get double ranch calls and double fees. Don't know how much an ultrasound costs where you live, we only charge $35 for one here plus the ranch/office call of $40... I know that sending blood costs alot, drawing the blood, sending it off, then waiting for the results, then there are the lab fees also.
I would have pretty much said we are doing an ultrasound. Maybe your vet doesn't feel confident with an ultrasound machine and prefers the blood work.
     
    07-06-2010, 05:45 PM
  #15
Foal
Thats kinda what I meant, with the ES test, good in mares from 90 days until term. So it shard to tell, when to get sample. PMSG can be drawn earlier, but they do suggest palpitation as well, if you use both test, the better the accuracy.

Just go with the , positive way, ultrasound..:) is easiest...some minis are to small to palpitate..
     
    07-06-2010, 11:11 PM
  #16
Foal
Right, she said no palpation at all, Missy was too small. She also said no ultrasound and seeing she is the only vet that I could get out here I had to go with what she said. She said the test she is doing is 99% accurate and she has never had it lie. She could abort it, sure. But even with an ultrasound she could abort it the next day per say. I wanted an ultrasound but she said it was more expensive, around $210 and the blood test cost $140. If Missy is bred, she'd be at the very earliest 120 day and latest is she'd be due next week, which is unlikely. So I am saying she would be around 120-140 if that and the vet said no, she would prefer the blood test because it was a definite yes or no answer, to go for the ultrasound if it's a yes, which we aren't even sure of yet. I already paid for the blood test and I find out in a week to 10 days for the results. So to have her come back out would cost the farm call and ultrasound again. We aren't sure she is bred and I am leaning towards she is NOT but the blood test can't really lie because if it did she wouldn't have the right amount of hormones to carry the foal and it would be aborted anyway, therefore making her not pregnant. But she assured me the test was 99% accurate and she said in the 30yrs she has done it she has never had it lie.

And like I said before, I owned a stallion for 3yrs that stayed with her, she never got bred so I said forget it and sold him in the beginning of March. But I have no seen her come back in heat since august of last year which makes sense because the photo-period got short by then so she would stop around that time reasonably. But she has not come back in heat now and her udders started swelling and have a pocket of fluid in them which wasn't there before but it's not growing or going away, the vet said it could just be the lush grass or the pregnancy but first things first, find out if she is Pregnant or not and then we can make an action plan from there.
     
    07-10-2010, 09:12 AM
  #17
Foal


Missy this morning. What do Ya think?

     
    07-11-2010, 11:21 PM
  #18
Foal
It might just be the way she's standing,but her stomach looks a little fuller to me.
     
    07-12-2010, 04:59 PM
  #19
Foal
I'm going to get a pic of her tonight but when I was out there this afternoon, I swear her belly has grown! I should find out this week, today has been a week and she said a week to ten days. I had someone out that is a horse person and she said she does have quite the belly on her! Everyday it seems bigger! Her sides seem to be filling out as well. It's so hard to get a good pic of exactly how her tummy is but it's very round and back and low. But then I will look at it later and it seems higher but out the sides more so it's driving me BONKERS!! I will get more pics of her tonight tho and try to show you, maybe it's just me but it defiantly seems like her belly is getting larger and she would now be almost 5-6 months
     
    07-13-2010, 09:13 AM
  #20
Foal
Missy this week..











     

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