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post #1 of 12 Old 09-13-2013, 11:48 PM Thread Starter
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Want a B/W Paint baby

I have a chestnut 1/2 paint 1/2 quarter horse that I want to breed. If I breed her to a double homogynized (sp) b/w paint will I get one?
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post #2 of 12 Old 09-13-2013, 11:52 PM
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I have a chestnut 1/2 paint 1/2 quarter horse that I want to breed. If I breed her to a double homogynized (sp) b/w paint will I get one?
Is the potential mare a regular registered paint or solid? If your mare is solid, breed her to an overo or tobiano.

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Depending on your mare's agouti status, if you bred her to a Homozygous black stud, it'd depend on if he carried red or not. So a black stud that's Homozygous black and tobiano, also depending on your mare's agouti status would greatly improve her chances of throwing a black foal. Check out this link: Color Calculator

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post #4 of 12 Old 09-14-2013, 09:52 AM
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You'd have an easier time buying one, I've seen a TON of B/W paints for sale across the country. All weanlings.

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post #5 of 12 Old 09-14-2013, 09:53 AM
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If you seriously want a black and white APHA, buy don't breed. Breeding is a crap shoot. Even with homozygous tobiano you're not guaranteed how much color is going to show. It can be extremely minimal to extremely loud.
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post #6 of 12 Old 09-14-2013, 10:33 AM Thread Starter
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Great advice all...she's pretty much solid with some white spots splattered on her. She isn't registered.
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post #7 of 12 Old 09-14-2013, 10:56 AM
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If your mare is homozygous agouti (AA), you will never get a black foal from her, only bay/brown when bred to homozygous black. If your mare is heterozygous agouti (Aa), you have a 50% chance of getting a black foal. Breeding to a homozygous tobiano or splash stallion guarantees the passing of that gene but not how much or little it will be exhibited. You could get a solid foal or a very loudly marked foal, just a roll of the dice.

But before you consider the color of foal you could get, consider the actual value of the breeding. Stallion quality and mare quality. Your mare isn't registered, the best you could do is have a foal registered in PtHA. Every confirmation fault of both mare and stallion has to be weighed and measured. You also need to know if either carry HYPP, GBED, and other genetic diseases common in the stock breeds. You also need to know the frame status of both stallion and mare, because if both carry frame every wise breeder will not risk a 25% chance that their foal will be dead 3 days after being born.

Breeding is expensive, a gamble on what you get, risks the life of both mare and foal because when things go wrong, they go very wrong. Basically, when breeding, color is the last consideration and icing on the top if you get it on a well put together foal. Weanlings are hitting the market right now, you can shop by color and gender to find your dream baby with the color you want and find one that suits your needs. ;)
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post #8 of 12 Old 09-14-2013, 11:20 AM
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It is indeed a crap shoot. Even if you get very good odds on the color, you're still shooting in the dark if you're looking for how a pattern is expressed. When we bred our chestnut Tobi/overly mare to a black Tobi/overo ( red carrier) stud, we hoped for a nice B/W and we consider ourselves fortunate the way Buckshot turned out.
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post #9 of 12 Old 09-19-2013, 12:05 PM Thread Starter
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with this advice I think I'll buy :) and keep my mare a maiden
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post #10 of 12 Old 09-19-2013, 12:14 PM
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Good idea.
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