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    11-07-2010, 09:33 PM
  #1
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Question What are the chances?

I have a mare that's a soild paint. Both of her parents had more color then she did. Jody is her name, she is a light redish brown and a blond mane&tail. I had over about 3 year now and I love her, wish to her breed her. She has good bloodline from her parents and this stallion I want to breed her with looks like app. Because his white and red dappled, 15.2 hh, very pretty. He was good bloodline too, but the question here is. I don't want a soild paint, I want a mare with more then one color.
In Jody's life she has 7 foals all colored but her last one was brown. The Stallion his Sire was black,brown and white and his dam was redish brown and white.
So what are the chances I'll get a colored horse?
Anything please&thanks.
     
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    11-07-2010, 10:34 PM
  #2
Foal
First off, if you breed her to an app you will be producing an un-registerable foal.

You have a 50% chance for a colored foal or not if the stallion is heterozygous for spots. Since your mare is solid it doesn't matter that both of her parents had color, because she doesnt.

Tobiano is a dominant gene so if the horse carries a copy, it will have spots.
     
    11-07-2010, 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Rumonek    
First off, if you breed her to an app you will be producing an un-registerable foal.

You have a 50% chance for a colored foal or not if the stallion is heterozygous for spots. Since your mare is solid it doesn't matter that both of her parents had color, because she doesnt.

Tobiano is a dominant gene so if the horse carries a copy, it will have spots.
The stallion is full paint but his coloring look like a app. But his color is a rare dapple like for a paint, I forgot the name...
Thanks, 50% better then nothing.
     
    11-07-2010, 10:51 PM
  #4
Showing
100% if you buy one, no telling if you breed.
     
    11-08-2010, 12:14 AM
  #5
Green Broke
In the absolute politest way possible, if you cannot even name a basic horse color, do you really think you should be breeding and raising a foal? Your post confused the heck out of me before I figured out that "solid" meant she's only one color.

I assume you're hoping for a bay pinto colored foal so that it will have black, mahogany and white, unlike a black pinto colored foal which would only have black and white, yes?

Based on your very "loose" descriptions, your mare sounds flaxen chestnut and the stallion sounds like a form of chestnut. In which case, chestnut is the only potential option.

As a note, if they're both pintos, I sincerely hope they've been tested for frame overo. In homozygous form, this gene causes lethal white overo which is a guaranteed death sentence for a foal.
     
    11-08-2010, 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by MacabreMikolaj    
In the absolute politest way possible, if you cannot even name a basic horse color, do you really think you should be breeding and raising a foal? Your post confused the heck out of me before I figured out that "solid" meant she's only one color.

I assume you're hoping for a bay pinto colored foal so that it will have black, mahogany and white, unlike a black pinto colored foal which would only have black and white, yes?

Based on your very "loose" descriptions, your mare sounds flaxen chestnut and the stallion sounds like a form of chestnut. In which case, chestnut is the only potential option.

As a note, if they're both pintos, I sincerely hope they've been tested for frame overo. In homozygous form, this gene causes lethal white overo which is a guaranteed death sentence for a foal.
Oh my gosh, I made a spelling mistake so I can't raise a foal! Go to my profile to look at a photo of my mare. Look before pointing things, please.

I broke a horse before, so I pretty sure raising a foal is okay for me. I been around horses all my life. I'm not good at the english lanuage...

No the stallion is not a pinto.
     
    11-08-2010, 12:26 AM
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Green Broke
It had nothing to do with the English language. You just described several horses and you can't even tell us what color they were. "Reddish" is not an equine color.

Can you please make up your mind? First he's an Appy, then he's a full Paint and now he's not a pinto.

I stand by my commentary.
     
    11-08-2010, 12:45 AM
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Originally Posted by MacabreMikolaj    
It had nothing to do with the English language. You just described several horses and you can't even tell us what color they were. "Reddish" is not an equine color.

Can you please make up your mind? First he's an Appy, then he's a full Paint and now he's not a pinto.

I stand by my commentary.

Ugh... At first I said "He looks like a app. But his full paint."
Better?
     
    11-08-2010, 01:08 AM
  #9
Yearling
Just to point out you don't nead to know about colours and genetics to be able to look after a foal.
     
    11-08-2010, 01:51 AM
  #10
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by rbarlo32    
Just to point out you don't nead to know about colours and genetics to be able to look after a foal.
That is incorrect. What if the mare has that genetic disorder that is in QHs? If she is a paint, then she is part QH and can have it.

What if the mare carries frame? Unlike what a PP said, a horse can have a white pattern genetically but express it minimally. Being a 'solid' paint, she could carry frame, what if the stallion carries it too?

Also, if he is a coloured Paint (as in has large splotches of white and another colour) then he is a pinto also.

Knowing genetics and colours is not needed to breed a foal. If you want to make a horse that is destined for a dog food can. Leave breeding to those who have the knowledge. Just because you have broken a horse in means nothing.
     

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