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post #41 of 53 Old 11-09-2010, 05:14 PM
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lol SR I thought the same thing about the vet wouldn't get there on time..probably shouldn't breed your poor mare then...you have to understand that pregnancy is not without its dangers...you could potentially lose your horse and the foal.

And the bit about not finding a foal that's nice to animals...no guarantee your foal will meet that requirement either...and then what? Will you pay for and care for it anyway?
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Originally Posted by Speed Racer View Post
Now, now Macabre, none of that is important.

After all, the stallion breeding fee won't cost her anything because she knows the owner! Score!!!

Plus, if the mare goes into labor and has complications she'll die, since obviously there isn't a vet within a 500 mile radius, so there won't be any vet fees! Double score!!

The OP has no idea about genetics, how to feed and care for a pregnant mare, or any contingency plan in case there's a medical emergency. She also has no plans in place for what she plans to do with the foal if the mare manages to make it through her pregnancy and give birth to a live baby.

But heck, she knows someone who will give her free hay!!! Whoot!

Looks like she's totally set and ready to bring a foal into the world!

Yeah, NOT.
Oh my gosh, thanks!
There's a vet 50 miles away but the hours are jack up.
Oh I forgot to say the mare already had 7 foal in her life time, I only had her 3 years so don't point to me that's over breeding her.

@ Macabre: You might some **** reason! Here:
1. It's a good chance for a foal
2. Good bloodline, on both side the Sire and Dam.
3. I want a foal
4. I can't find any foal worth the money someone is wanting
5. I want a young horse
6. If I breed her, I need to do it before she to old
I'm not cross breeding both full paints.
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post #43 of 53 Old 11-09-2010, 05:21 PM
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What are you planning to use this foal for?
Can we see conformation pictures of both mare and stallion?
What are the stallion owner's reasons for wanting to geld him?
Are both horses tested for already listed diseases? Both 100% healthy?
What are these good bloodlines?
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post #44 of 53 Old 11-09-2010, 05:32 PM Thread Starter
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Originally Posted by horseluver2435 View Post
What are you planning to use this foal for?
Can we see conformation pictures of both mare and stallion?
What are the stallion owner's reasons for wanting to geld him?
Are both horses tested for already listed diseases? Both 100% healthy?
What are these good bloodlines?
The mare is Jody in my profile, sorry don't have a photo of the stallion.
They only have so much land, they have 2 stallion, so they can't put the stallion in with the mares because most of they are his sister or something. And they can't have any more horses. So they wish to Geld him.
You mean a the paper where they take blood to see for diseases? The stallion does my mare's paper won't out last years. But I'm pretty 80% she good.

The Dam's bloodline is, her grandfather was a famous race horse. The mare was a famous barrel racer.
The stallion: his sire was the state champ, he had good cutting horses in the day.

I wish to the foal for well that still if-y. My mare is a barrel racer and I'm teaching her to be a jumper. So I'm still thinking, probably western or jumping..
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I mean, has a vet tested both horses to be 100% (not 80%) okay to breed without passing on diseases or conditions that will kill your foal?

Because it's extremely important that you do that before you breed. It's hard to hear when you really want a foal, but in all honesty, breeding is not something where you can cross your fingers and wait and see.

To maximize the possibility of both mare and foal surviving, research before breeding is essential.

For bloodlines, I was wondering if you could tell us names. Some lines, such as Impressive, are infamous for HYPP, as mentioned before. If either horse has such lines, it's important to test for HYPP and be 100% sure (again, not 80%) that they are completely negative.

Speaking of which, are both horses registered?

If you don't even know why you want the foal yourself, maybe you should take the time to think about that before proceeding? If there's not a reason to produce another horse, then you really shouldn't.

I hope, for both your horses and your own sake, you think this through before acting.
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Oh my god..

"If you can't see a thoroughbred has talent, you're probably too dumb to ride one anyway."
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post #47 of 53 Old 11-09-2010, 06:21 PM
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I think AztecBaby, that the OP is possibly the poster child for OMG.

Considering one of her earlier posts, where she stated she could not find a horse in the colour she likes, except for $10,000, I don't believe she has looked at all.

Not sure where she lives, but I constantly see wonderful horses and in the colour she likes, going for very little money these days and even in killer auctions, due to our economy in the US. Many with full registration and show records.

This girl is bent on breeding. Sadly, if something goes wrong, her new foal quite well might end up being more expensive, than if she had purchased a horse or foal. And of course, if the foal survives and is not of the colour she wanted, no doubt she will try again and we'll see the first one on Craigslist or someone will be taking it out of a killer yard as a rescue. When irresponsible breeders breed, it almost always ends up with responsible equine folk, picking up the pieces.

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Cowgirl, the way you type is not helping us understand things any better. i am getting confused by reading your posts.

i am not going to be rude and i do not know you or anything about you but how old are you? do you realize the work that goes into a foal? Just because you have trained a horse does not mean you can raise a foal.

It just does not seem like a good idea for many reasons, which people are listing for you. And MacabreMikolaj and SR have some very good points that you need to reflect on before you take make a rash decision.

We are not trying to bash and attack you, just simply help you before you get in too deep.

"I am only one, but still I am one. I cannot do everything but I can still do something. I will not refuse to do the something I can do. " - Helen Keller
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post #49 of 53 Old 11-09-2010, 07:40 PM
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I hope God tells her to smash her computer with a sledgehammer.

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I just want to say that bloodlines =/= a good, breedable horse sometimes.

The mare I want to buy is roach-backed, jug-headed, odd in the shoulder, and her brother has a pronounced hunter's bump. Their half-sister is a national champion. Does that mean that, because Lady is RACKING HORSE FOR THE WIN, that Nighty should be bred? But they have the same bloodlines!! Oh, plus they have Ebony's Masterpiece in their bloodlines!!!!!! So? Nighty still has flaws. She's not fugly, but she's not what I'd call breedable.
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