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        08-09-2010, 04:01 AM
    What color is he?

    The new gelding I am getting has a very unique(or atleast around here I haven't seen one like him) color. He is registered as a bay roan by the lady I am getting him from. She doesn't know much about all of the colors and he was different as a foal. She didn't see till I pointed it out that he has a dorsal stripe and barring. He has black tipping on his ears. Lots of corn spots. His name is Peppy(originally Pepe) after the skunk because of his skunk tail markings.

    I don't have his papers yet so I don't know what all is on his sires side. That stud was a black and white tobiano that has since passed away. I can't find his bloodlines anywhere online and the only name I remember seeing on his side of the papers was Skip Lee something or other(a Skips Artist bred horse). Tuxedos Dreamghost was the studs registered name. The dam is Cats Misty Lady:
    Cats Misty Lady Paint
    I believe she was either sorrel or a red dun. She's passed since too. Peppy's grey half sister threw a red dun colt last year out of a bay or sorrel stud so I believe it's Peppy and the grey's dam that keeps throwing in those markings.

    Not sure if this will work as I've never used the link FB gives but we'll try it and if it doesn't work just say so and I'll switch it up.
    Peppy :) | Facebook

    ETA: He is a 2005 breeding stock APHA registered gelding. Some pics in the album are from his 2yr old year and then go up until this month.
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        08-09-2010, 07:12 AM
    Green Broke
    Yeah he looks bay roan to me, with a skunk tail. He may be varnish roan though, by the way it is distributed across his body. Was he roan when he was born?
        08-09-2010, 09:43 AM
    He can't be varnish roan with two Paint parents... Varnish roan is a leopard pattern.

    The amount of white on his face is unusual for a roan, but it is possible.

    As far as the dorsal stripe and the leg barring - he could very well have both roan and dun. They aren't mutually exclusive.

    Here's another one: http://blazingsaddles.nwpegasus.com/...sassy/Sas2.jpg

    I LOVE his tail, BTW.
        08-09-2010, 11:02 AM
    Green Broke
    I bet money on him being a bay dun roan. For him to be that golden color, he HAS to be buckskin or dun, and his pedigree states that buckskin is impossible. He's a typical bay dun color, with obvious roaning - his head is "solid" with the white mixed throughout his body. The leg barring is almost a dead giveaway to dun - sometimes it can be from counter shading, but due to his color, I'd bank money on dun.

    Also, the white in the mane and tail can be typical of dun factor. It could be from rabicano (he could have both as well), but I wouldn't expect to see the dark head on a rabicano. Rabicano also doesn't usually display such a prominant skunk tail, it usually sticks to the head of the tail and acts like a "frosting". Haha, is he part Fjord? Fjords always have the white in their mane and tail when expressing dun:

        08-09-2010, 11:32 AM
    Looks like a bay dun roan to me
        08-10-2010, 04:10 AM
    Thanks so much for all the input on this. I am not that great with colors obviously so I wasn't sure. I will eventually get him tested by UC Davis to know exactly since I have to test my mare eventually for a few things.

    And thank you CloudsMystique!
        08-10-2010, 11:12 AM
    My mare is also sort of confusing like that. She's a red roan with the barest hint of a stripe down her back and a multi-colored tail, as well as a flaxen mane. She's also got a white diamond on her belly that I never noticed until I happened to bend down low enough a few years after buying her! She's so short, I really have to get down there to see it. ;)
        08-12-2010, 03:46 AM
    I think that the others are spot on - Bay Dun Roan. Quite a mouthful lol.

    Eolith - is your mare's roaning similar to the roaning that you see on a clydey?
        08-12-2010, 01:01 PM
    Green Broke
    He looks too dark to be a Bay Dun to me. IMO, he looks like a Bay Roan with counter shading. Counter Shading can cause false dun markings that look pretty darn convincing, but it's still not dun. He doesn't look that golden to me, just light bay or faded bay mixed with white.

    If you want to know for sure, have him tested for Dun.
        08-12-2010, 01:30 PM
    I agree with ^ that he looks like a bay roan, not dun.

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