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  • Brown horse with light brown mealy
  • Black bay horse

 
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    09-13-2010, 09:23 AM
  #21
Foal
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Is she called Smartie by any chance??
Nope lol. Ilex, she was an Intermediate eventer in her day.
     
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    09-17-2010, 08:12 PM
  #22
Trained
I am going to disagree with everyone that is saying bay roan. He is showing classic signs of being brown, and a brown roan at that.
     
    09-17-2010, 08:13 PM
  #23
Trained
BTW corn marks are dark spots on the roan that have returned to the base color. Usually caused by some sort of injury to the horse (like bite mark or scrap). They have nothing to do with the color of the horse. They just happen to be something that is found in roans.
     
    09-17-2010, 08:21 PM
  #24
Foal
Their are no 'brown' points on him at all. Just varying shades of grey from light grey to steel grey, and now I know what corn marks are I can say he only has a few and they are black.
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    09-17-2010, 08:28 PM
  #25
Trained
A brown horse does not have to have brown "points."

The lighting around the muzzle is indicative of brown.

The following horses are all brown.





If you look next to the nostrils, that lightening is what indicates the horse is brown. As well as the lightening of the other areas of the horse that aren't affected on a bay or black horse.
     
    09-17-2010, 08:34 PM
  #26
Foal
He does not have a mealy muzzle as half his face in the summer, but in winter it goes black and everyone classes him as a blue roan in winter but a wth?? In summer
     
    09-17-2010, 08:49 PM
  #27
Trained
Per this picture -


That is a winter picture correct?
     
    09-17-2010, 08:55 PM
  #28
Foal
No that's a now ish time picture, in real winter his face goes black from the tops of his ears to the ond of his muzzle
     
    09-18-2010, 01:00 AM
  #29
Green Broke
What exactly is "brown" genetically?

I usually catergorize horses in terms of bay or chestnut, depending on whether or not the horse has black points. Is "brown" a version of bay, or a version of chestnut? I'm guessing it's a version of bay from the photos posted?
     
    09-18-2010, 01:26 AM
  #30
Green Broke
^

It's a version of bay. They've finally documented that brown is also caused by agouti, but a different form of it. So it's virtually the same as bay, just slightly genetically different. It still wouldn't show on a chestnut coat, like bay, but I believe can be carried by a chestnut and passed onto foals.

Agouti (bay horse) = A
Non-agouti (black horse) = a
Brown Agouti (brown horse) = At


     

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