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Old 10-06-2009, 01:44 PM   #21
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You can breed to a horse with Impressive on his papers if he is N/N.

If you don't have enough money to deal with the things that could go wrong with breeding, don't breed. It'd probably be cheaper to go make a drive to get something (Or a few drives) than it would be to breed (And you know what you're getting).

I don't really think either of those mares is breeding worthy. Same goes for the studs you posted (At least from those shots)

If you absolutly have to breed, r_g posted some better looking stallions for you.
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Old 10-06-2009, 01:46 PM   #22
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That cremello is built like crap and I love foundation quarter horses.

Save up to get shipped semen like suggested if you have to breed. There are far better horses than that thing (Including Cremello's and other such coloured things)
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Old 10-06-2009, 01:54 PM   #23
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Sandy Hill Quarter Horses' Stallions

Anderson Quarter Horses

Anderson Quarter Horses

Those are good working built qhs in your area. N/N
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Old 10-06-2009, 03:36 PM   #24
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ok , i am going for the old foundation look. nice big bulid. I dont like the new lok of the QH. I hate horses that are light bulit they are noo good for cow work. Ok th back and white mare got breedRr So far just Dandy to him and she did not take to him. pluse he dose not look that good i have see him in person. now if you can find one that is bulit like that cremello then i will consider.
Neither of the stallions you posted have that build. They have no hips at all. The cremello has awful gates and one of the weakest hind ends I've seen on a "working" horse. The buckskin has an awful neck to go with his awful hind end. You will not be satisfied with the foal that you create if you breed those mares to those stallions.

We're not trying to bash you, we're trying to give you advice that will possibly save you from being horribly disappointed with the result.

If you MUST breed your mares, here's what you need to be looking for in a stallion:

-Balance. Evenness. You don't want withers higher then the butt, or the butt higher than the withers. You also don't want a thick neck and no hip, or a huge hip and weak shoulder. Everything must balance.

-Straight legs. You want there to be a straight line from the point of the shoulder, to the knee, to the pastern. You want toes to face forwards.

-Sloping shoulder. An upright shoulder will create a choppy, uncomfortable gait, for both you and the horse.

-Strong hip. You need a big hip on a working horse to be able to have your horse properly work from his hind end. A horse with a weak hip will never excel is any kind of performance, be it ranch work, barrels, or reining.

Please pick up and read thoroughly a conformation guide before bringing another horse into this world. Conformation is key. It will maintain healthy joints, legs, hips, and shoulders. You will save yourself vet bills. You will save your horse pain. You will save yourself time trying to balance the gaits through training with a horse who has a natural balanced gait.

Please consider the well-being of the foal you plan to create, and study conformation and its importance before bringing another foal into the world.
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Old 10-06-2009, 09:28 PM   #25
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ok, i am still looking but, i am looking for a big hiped horse. I am looking for horses that are bulit for roping barrels, teem penning, cutting and that can be a pic up horse. I do big rodeo's so i need a good pic up horse. I am in need of old fashion horses. I am not like a lot of you prisssie people that do stuff for the money i do it for fun. I am a person that wants a horse that any one can ride. not just one person. I could breed to my pinto stallion before i geld him. this stud is not registerd at all.
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Old 10-06-2009, 09:38 PM   #26
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If you want more big hiped horses, then why on earth are you posting pictures of stallions that couldn't be anymore further if you tried? This alone tells me you simply do not have the qualifications to be a successful breeder.
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I am not like a lot of you prisssie people that do stuff for the money i do it for fun.
thats so nice to say. come on for advice then insult people. classy. do yourself and your mares a favor and dont breed. you obviously know nothing about what you should be looking for. and if you cant afford to ship semen, you cant afford to breed. how are you going to afford any vet bills? what if something goes wrong? how can you afford that if you cant afford to even ship semen? i dont like your mares conformation, i dont think its very good at all. but apparently because youre not a "prissy person" and its all fun and games to you, i guess its ok to breed poorly conformed horses and let the HORSES suffer over it.
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Old 10-06-2009, 09:46 PM   #28
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You say you're looking for a horse with a big hip - neither of those studs have the hip you want on a cow horse. The cremello lacks impulsion from behind and he is not working through his back at all. He is hollow and on the forehand. You'll never get a good working roper/penner/cutter/reiner/riding horse like that. Please show me where on those studs you see a big working hip, or where you see balance, or where you see "old fashioned." Those studs are the result of poor breeding choices.

Impressive bred horses, for the most part, are going to be halter bred horses. As long as the stud is HYPP N/N, you are fine. They don't carry the gene.

Whether the horse an be ridden by more than one person has nothing to do with its conformation or whether or not you ride for fun or to win jackpots. That'll be in the way the horse is trained. Temperament is a factor, sure, but ultimately, the ridability of the horse will be in its training.

However, if you choose to persue rodeo games and high-stress speed and cattle events, you REQUIRE a well conformed animal. You need power from behind (hip) and sturdy legs. Legs that are not straight will be destroyed during high-stress rodeo events.

There is so much to consider when breeding. It is, in the end, your choice, but think about every apsect of this decision. This foal will not have chose to come into the world with crooked knees or a weak hip. Just think about it all.
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Old 10-07-2009, 12:36 AM   #29
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nybarrelracer, go wih your heart. You pick the stallion you feel would be the best for your mares, and would make the best foal that will fullfill, you hopes and dreams. Do not listen to everyone on here. I do not know why everyone is getting so up tight about this, you simply just asked for a little help. NOT FOR PEOPLE TO BASH YOUR HORSES. I THINK THEY ARE BOTH GORGEOUS :) I wish you the best of lucky!!!
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Old 10-07-2009, 07:12 AM   #30
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nybarrelracer, go wih your heart. You pick the stallion you feel would be the best for your mares, and would make the best foal that will fullfill, you hopes and dreams. Do not listen to everyone on here. I do not know why everyone is getting so up tight about this, you simply just asked for a little help. NOT FOR PEOPLE TO BASH YOUR HORSES. I THINK THEY ARE BOTH GORGEOUS :) I wish you the best of lucky!!!
she asked for an opinion, thats what shes getting. no one is bashing her. why do people need to get so bent out of shape with this? there are a lot of people on this forums who dont want to see more poorly conformed horses brought into this world when there are SO many foals that need a home and that would be just as good, even better, than breeding one of your own, especially to horses whos conformations isnt that great. no one wants to sugar coat things here, there is no reason for it. breeding isnt something to do on a whim JUST because you want to and it would be fun.
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