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        08-10-2008, 10:23 PM
      #11
    Trained
    Body Type. If your horse has no name bloodlines but great conformation, more power to you. =) I think they're both important, but Body Type is the thing that comes into play the most I think.
         
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        08-14-2008, 04:15 PM
      #12
    Foal
    For me its a combination. When I am cruising ads I find myself always drawn to a certain body type that I like and it almost always translates to the blood lines I prefer.

    But I think you have to consider conformation, then bloodlines realistically.. because we all know sometimes amazing bloodlines don't produce what they promise.
         
        08-14-2008, 06:48 PM
      #13
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    Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 11:27 pm Post subject: Pedigree or Body

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    I think that these major breeds are getting all the good qualities breed out of them. Especially their feet!

    That is somewhat I think. I was watching something of cutting horse and one horse was said out of compation for 6 to 18 months due to an injury and He was under 5 years old. Big Brown won easliy in the first two legs of the triple crown and came in last in the third.
    How many of Sea Biscuit's foals were race winners?
    While most of us say Body type, it seems that breeders are looking at pedigree and letting the rest go
         
        08-14-2008, 11:13 PM
      #14
    Showing
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Kentucky
    Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 11:27 pm Post subject: Pedigree or Body

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    I think that these major breeds are getting all the good qualities breed out of them. Especially their feet!

    That is somewhat I think. I was watching something of cutting horse and one horse was said out of compation for 6 to 18 months due to an injury and He was under 5 years old. Big Brown won easliy in the first two legs of the triple crown and came in last in the third.
    How many of Sea Biscuit's foals were race winners?
    While most of us say Body type, it seems that breeders are looking at pedigree and letting the rest go
    Then those breeders need to step back and take a look at what they're producing.
    When I was looking to breed my mare, I looked at a stallion's body type first - what qualities did I want to enhance in the foal? What did the mare have that I wanted to try and eliminate (i.e. She had a short back, I chose a stallion with a longer back than hers to try and breed that quality in)? What in the mare do I want to enhance (i.e. She had a great shoulder... I chose a stallion with a great shoulder.)? What do I want to breed in (i.e. My mare was only 16hh, I wanted to breed something bigger, so I chose a taller stallion.)?
    HOWEVER... I also looked at his pedigree, and checked out his siblings' records... was he just a fluke, or did his sire produce many good horses? What about his dam? If their foals are doing well, chances are good genes got passed down. If the stallion's siblings are all broken down trail ponies, then maybe it was a fluke that somehow he got just the right combination of genes to be a nice horse.... so I do look at pedigree, but for performance more than anything. I will not buy or breed a horse based solely on pedigree.
    It sickens me that people don't take the foal's well-being into consideration.
    Take halter horses, for instance. Right now it is "fashionable" for the halter horses to have upright pasterns and little feet. So that's what breeders breed for.... and then they wonder why their top show horses are lame by the age of 4.
    Breeders need their priorities straightened out.
         
        08-27-2008, 01:59 AM
      #15
    Foal
    my opinion

    Well you can buy pretty horse after pretty horse but in the end you will keep the ones with heart. I always look at bloodlines because like yall have said there are undesireable traits that I look for and desireable ones. Papers arent everything though. You just have to have something to go off of. For some people that is the build, the way the horse moves, the look of its eye, the names on the papers, it differs for so many people. I try to be as picky as possible because there are "perfect" horses out there and perfect for one is not perfect for another. I look at all of the factors, if the horse is bred for big bones but does not showcase them then it probably won't pass the traits for them either, I know there are exceptions, but in the long run I want to be safe.
         
        09-26-2008, 10:49 AM
      #16
    Weanling
    I just want a good horse, I got a pretty one...i hate riding him though because he is a spaz at sometimes and other times I can't even get him to ease into a lope .... his parents were great though

    So I look for both, but in the end if the cow face norse turns out to be the better horse, that is the one I am goin for...

    I have seen some ugly horses run a mean barrel pattern!
         
        09-26-2008, 08:35 PM
      #17
    Trained
    When we bought our first mare, we didn't really know much and just wanted a good riding horse for pleasure riding. We're up to three Paint mares and they all look and ride great and have wonderful dispositions. Turns out they all have very good bloodlines...perhaps just coincidence or luck.
         
        09-27-2008, 10:41 PM
      #18
    Showing
    My horse was bred for racing. He's bred up the ying-yang for it, many many famous names in the first 5 generations.

    My horse won ONE race... that's it.

    So no, pedigree isn't everything.
         
        09-28-2008, 02:38 PM
      #19
    Started
    I agree with you^. My horse race 30x won 3x over like 4x years. Here is his pedigree:
    http://www.pedigreequery.com/ems+decision
    He can jump like its nobodys bidness. And can turn on a dime or slow down and do the WP jog. Pedigree is only good for breeding or selling. Some horses do pass on the temperment. Mr. Prospecter was a great tempered horse, and his git are good tempered horses.
         
        09-28-2008, 10:45 PM
      #20
    Showing
    Conformation is by far a lot more important. Blood lines to me, mean nothing. It's very rare to see a good line with horses that are good at what they do simply because it was passed on.

    To me lines, other than fun to say that it has a neat line or has a certain horse in it's line-means nothing.

    All about conformation and temper.
         

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