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  • Will a solid paint mare throw a paint foal
  • Solid paint bred throw color

 
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    02-06-2008, 12:56 AM
  #1
Started
What's the point of....

Having a solid colored paint if they are bred for color in the first place? Lol.
     
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    02-06-2008, 01:00 AM
  #2
Trained
Ive often wondered that myself
     
    02-06-2008, 01:01 AM
  #3
Started
Curiousity has just got me this week! :)
     
    02-06-2008, 01:02 AM
  #4
Started
Did someone just decide, "This is a solid Paint." or something? They don't had solid Appaloosas. Lol. Well Few Spot but I think that was an accident. Lol.
     
    02-06-2008, 01:10 AM
  #5
Trained
Dunno. Maybe they just have one or two charcteristics that make them paints. I don't know much about them though so its hard to comment
     
    02-06-2008, 04:16 AM
  #6
Yearling
When a paint baby is born, it may or may not SHOW the color gene, but it will carry it (I believe), making it possible for it to produce a colored paint. I don't think people breeding for paints, necessarily hope for a solid paint (not that they would love it any less :) ), but they may end up with one. Even if it is born solid though, it is registered a paint because it has paint lines in either mom, dad, or both. That was as simply as I could put it...:)

Also, if you breed:

Paint w/color X paint w/color, you have 75% chance of paint baby
Homozygous paint X other horse solid or colored, you have 100%
Paint w/color X other breed (not paint) 50% chance of color
Paint w/color X solid paint, 75% color.......

.....I think that is the case, but someone can correct me if I am wrong...It may be a bit more complex. :)
     
    02-06-2008, 11:34 AM
  #7
Showing
My best guess was that they wanted to distingush between "colored" paints and "solid" paints so they could breed for color in following generations; I.e. The foal has to have a certain amount of white to be considered a "colored" foal, otherwise it's labeled as a "breeding stock" or "solid" paint. Breeding 2 colored paints together does not guarantee a colored foal, and that solid foal has less of a chance to throw color than a colored foal.. following, or have I lost you??
Anyways, breeding stock paints can't compete in all Paint shows, as they reserve most of those for colored paints - which I think is a bit "colorist" if you ask me!
Anyways, I think that labelling "breeding stock" versus "colored" is just a way of putting a label on the horse so people will be more inclined to breed colored paints and weed out the BS ones. (BS=breeding stock.. not... you know.)
I fell in love with this one BS paint foal, he was black with 4 high white stockings and a balze - GORGEOUS - but ended up not buying him because, although he was a registered PAINT, he was registered "BREEDING STOCK" ... so not as valuable... especilly if I had kept him a stallion (which I might have.. like I said.. he was gorgeous.)
Anyways, that's my stab in the dark.
     
    02-06-2008, 11:37 AM
  #8
Showing
*ahem* for those of you not wanting to read my novel, as well as sum my novel up:

Solid paints could be viewed as an "unwanted" byproduct of a non-homozygous paint. Two paints bred together do not guarantee a colored paint, so a solid, BS paint is what you get instead!


There. I think I made sense that time?
     
    02-06-2008, 04:58 PM
  #9
Started
Because you can't be completely 100% sure that a horse will throw great color, so thus solids get bred, sold, showed because not all people judge a horse by it's color. There just as good as paints, and since they are just as whole of a paint as a colored one is the paint association cannot prevent them from showing so they just add solid classes in the APHA.
     
    02-10-2008, 07:55 AM
  #10
Foal
Ok there are overo paints, tabino paints ,sabino paints and solid paints but the solid paint are registered as breeding stock yes because they still can throw off a paint
     

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