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    10-03-2012, 12:42 AM
  #1
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When do you decide to geld?

Ok, I'm curious here to know these two things (as a result of a previous thread about how old a stud should be before he is bred)
I am asking these two things:
What prerecquisites does a stud have to have before you breed him, and at what age typically do you do this?
And:
For what reasons do you decide to geld a stud?
Sorry, that's 3 questions:)
I just want to get a feel for what's acceptable and what's not.
     
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    10-03-2012, 12:52 AM
  #2
Trained
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Originally Posted by Muppetgirl    
Ok, I'm curious here to know these two things (as a result of a previous thread about how old a stud should be before he is bred)
I am asking these two things:
What prerecquisites does a stud have to have before you breed him, and at what age typically do you do this?
And:
For what reasons do you decide to geld a stud?
Sorry, that's 3 questions:)
I just want to get a feel for what's acceptable and what's not.
I have several criteria and milestones for gelding a stallion. I have an Arab stallion who is excellent in temper, conformation, ridability, trainability, excellent show record and makes great babies. The market is so poor I gelded him in May at 5 yrs. Old. If I'm not going to use him, he doesn't need to remain intact.

I have a colt sired by him out of a mare who has had some nice fillies for me but no colts of stallion quality, so I will be gelding him as soon as the weather cools and the flies die, he'll be less than 1 year old and I've been ready to geld him from his first month. I have retired the mare to pasture to live out her days.

I have a 2 y.o. Stallion who, because of his pedigree, conformation, trainability, temper, physical ability and color, has been tested on 1 mare this year. If I don't think the foal measures up, he will be gelded next spring. The mare has thrown several champion babies, if the foal isn't good, it won't be her fault.

As far as I'm concerned any stallion can be gelded at any time due to market conditions, training issues, temper issues, conformation issues, you name it. If he p*sses me off one time to many, he can get gelded. I gelded and sold an outstanding homozygous black tobiano colt who just couldn't learn to stay out of my space. He was over 16 hands at 2 years old and still growing. Not going to deal with that in a huge stallion. His new owner loves him and rides all over the place on him, he's an awesome gelding.

I bought and gelded a 7 y.o. Stallion who had impeccable manners and a great pedigree, was gorgeous and 14.1 hh. Too small and I didn't want small babies. BUT.....he was an awesome kids horse and sold for a very good sum.

So here, a stallion can be gelded any time and pretty much for any reason.

7 y.o. I gelded:

     
    10-03-2012, 01:07 AM
  #3
Trained
These pics are of the 5 year old I gelded in May.




     
    10-03-2012, 01:12 AM
  #4
Started
My prerecs:
1. World show championships between 2-4 years old.
2. Proven progeny.
3. Exceptional bloodlines.
4. Exceptional temperament.
5. "Fashionable". Popular in the industry/discipline.

Geld if he doesn't show world-show potential by the time his balls drop.

So glad I have a mareness! Makes life much easier.
     
    10-03-2012, 01:13 AM
  #5
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Nice horses
     
    10-03-2012, 02:18 AM
  #6
Weanling
I almost think of it the other way around. I start out planning to geld any stud colt that hits the ground. They would have to REALLY get my attention to make it through with their bits. I still wouldn't want to actually own a stallion.

I like having and riding mares. I like riding geldings. Stallions are a PITA. I have even passed up more than a few really nice horses are good prices just because I did not want to have to deal with the process of gelding them and waiting for the hormones to work out of their system.
     
    10-03-2012, 04:42 AM
  #7
Trained
Since I don't have the time, facilities or resources to market & promote a stallion, they all get gelded as soon as they drop and it is not fly season. I don't care how spectacular they appear, it's not worth it to me and easier to use a proven stud if I ever want to acquire a foal. In fact, it is even easier to buy a foal already on the ground. Keeping a breeding stallion is too much hassle & having a breeding farm is way too much work & risky!
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    10-03-2012, 05:43 PM
  #8
Yearling
Dreamcatcherarabians, you really put into perspective, and I thank you. The fact that unless a horse is top quality in every area (temperament as well as confirmation etc) there is no point breeding from him. There are so many horses needing great homes, I spent year rescuing and rehabbing Tbs and it breaks my heart when people keep breeding from sub standard mares and stallions producing horses destined for canned food. I believe if you're going to breed you need to think very carefully about why and the future life of the foal you breed.
     
    10-03-2012, 05:44 PM
  #9
Yearling
Sorry I meant to add that your horses especially the top one are absolutely divine!
     
    10-03-2012, 10:30 PM
  #10
Trained
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Originally Posted by Merlot    
Sorry I meant to add that your horses especially the top one are absolutely divine!
Thanks Merlot! And just think, those are the boys I GELDED. I never breed unless I can afford to keep the foal for life and am willing to train it all the way to finished under saddle. That doesn't mean I won't sell one, I certainly will, but when the market is down, if necessary they can stay right here.
     

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