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    07-30-2013, 01:12 PM
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When is a mare too old to be fertile?

As most of yall probably know, I bred my mare last month to my neighbor's stallion.

He said to wait twenty-one days, and if she didn't come back into heat, then she would be pregnant. So, I waited... and she didn't come back into heat anywhere near or around the prescribed date that she should have came back into heat (July 4th).

So, we thought all was well.

However, yesterday I thought she was acting oddly, like a mare in heat (and my girl never acts differently with her heat cycles) so I've kept an eye on her yesterday and today, and today I had a pretty good feeling that she was in heat.

So, I went back to my neighbor's house and informed him, and he brought his stallion up to see if she was, in fact, in heat, and she was... so, true to his last month's statement of "If she doesn't take, we'll try again...", we bred her again.

This time, we are going to cover her every other day until she goes out of heat... but my question is, my mare is nineteen years old... is there an age where older mares aren't fertile anymore? Could she be infertile now? She's had one foal before, several years ago.
     
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    07-30-2013, 01:47 PM
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It is possible that a mare could be slip a foal very early on and miss a cycle before coming back into heat at any age. Older mares have a higher chance to become infertile or less fertile. Each mare is different and so is each pregnancy. Have a good relationship with your vet, check via ultrasound to make sure she is pregnant or not (coming or not coming into heat isn't the most accurate method to determine pregnancy since some mares may start a false pregnancy and others may still have "heat cycles" while they are pregnant.
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    07-30-2013, 01:49 PM
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Has she previously been bred?

Personally, I'd be working with my vet on this.
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    07-30-2013, 01:53 PM
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Why did you not get her ultrasounded?

Did you even have a pre-breeding exam done on her to ensure that she is healthy at 19 to be bred?
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    07-30-2013, 01:58 PM
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You need to have her checked by a vet... Ideally she should be checked 14-16 days after breeding to check for twining.

This is, I am guessing, the same nieghbor who bred you mare to the wrong stud in the first place because he "forgot" right? I would be taking what he says with a grain of salt and dealing with a vet in regards to your mare and not the stud owner.
     
    07-30-2013, 02:17 PM
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It is possible that a mare could be slip a foal very early on and miss a cycle before coming back into heat at any age. Older mares have a higher chance to become infertile or less fertile. Each mare is different and so is each pregnancy. Have a good relationship with your vet, check via ultrasound to make sure she is pregnant or not (coming or not coming into heat isn't the most accurate method to determine pregnancy since some mares may start a false pregnancy and others may still have "heat cycles" while they are pregnant.
Thank you so much for answering my questions!

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Has she previously been bred?

Personally, I'd be working with my vet on this.
Yes, she has been bred before (to the same stud I'm breeding her to this time), but it was a long time ago (her foal from that breeding is now seven years old).

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Why did you not get her ultrasounded?

Did you even have a pre-breeding exam done on her to ensure that she is healthy at 19 to be bred?
I didn't get her ultrasounded because it's personal preference to do that, and I chose to not ultrasound. I've never known anyone personally to ultrasound a pregnant mare and every mare's pregnancy I've been around has turned out just fine without ultrasounding, so, in my opinion, it's not something that I feel like I 'absolutely have to do'. Now, if my mare or the stud in question threw twins in the past or something, I'd consider ultrasounding, but it's just not something I feel like I 'must do'. Personal preference and all.

As far as making sure she's healthy enough to be bred, I've spoken to both my vets and outlined her issues with arthritis (and the supplement she's on), her (now fixed due to a better feeding program) issues with keeping weight in winter, etc... and both were in agreement with each other that she'd be fine to breed this year.

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You need to have her checked by a vet... Ideally she should be checked 14-16 days after breeding to check for twining.

This is, I am guessing, the same nieghbor who bred you mare to the wrong stud in the first place because he "forgot" right? I would be taking what he says with a grain of salt and dealing with a vet in regards to your mare and not the stud owner.
Please don't tell me what I 'need' to do. It's personal preference to have her ultrasounded by a vet and I chose not to and have already explained my reasoning. Twins are extremely rare, in any case, and I highly doubt she'd have twins anyway, since they are so rare.

And yes, this is the same neighbor and the same stud. For a few minutes, upon realizing she was in heat again, I debated rebreeding her with the other stud, but in the end I chose not to because I like Bear better and he better suits my mare. My neighbor may be older, but he's been a breeder for most of his life and, while he does tend to forget some things, I still trust him and respect him.
     
    07-30-2013, 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Britt    
Thank you so much for answering my questions!



Yes, she has been bred before (to the same stud I'm breeding her to this time), but it was a long time ago (her foal from that breeding is now seven years old).



I didn't get her ultrasounded because it's personal preference to do that, and I chose to not ultrasound. I've never known anyone personally to ultrasound a pregnant mare and every mare's pregnancy I've been around has turned out just fine without ultrasounding, so, in my opinion, it's not something that I feel like I 'absolutely have to do'. Now, if my mare or the stud in question threw twins in the past or something, I'd consider ultrasounding, but it's just not something I feel like I 'must do'. Personal preference and all.

As far as making sure she's healthy enough to be bred, I've spoken to both my vets and outlined her issues with arthritis (and the supplement she's on), her (now fixed due to a better feeding program) issues with keeping weight in winter, etc... and both were in agreement with each other that she'd be fine to breed this year.



Please don't tell me what I 'need' to do. It's personal preference to have her ultrasounded by a vet and I chose not to and have already explained my reasoning. Twins are extremely rare, in any case, and I highly doubt she'd have twins anyway, since they are so rare.

And yes, this is the same neighbor and the same stud. For a few minutes, upon realizing she was in heat again, I debated rebreeding her with the other stud, but in the end I chose not to because I like Bear better and he better suits my mare. My neighbor may be older, but he's been a breeder for most of his life and, while he does tend to forget some things, I still trust him and respect him.
I guess I'm confused. Why are you breeding her if you're not going to take the basic steps to prevent a disaster?
     
    07-30-2013, 02:25 PM
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Typical 'having a foal on the cheap' attitude, y'all. Best to just let her learn from experience.

Unfortunately, it's the mare and any potential foal who will suffer from lack of proper medical care, but I guess it's okay as long as the OP gets what SHE wants.

Going to keep breeding her and breeding her without getting a repro evaluation done on her too, I'll warrant. Knew someone who did this. Lost the mare and foal by being a cheapskate and not getting the proper prenatal care.

Twins are not rare, OP. They're far too common, which is WHY you have the evaluation done to help preserve the lives for which you're responsible.

If you can't afford the vet, you can't afford the foal. If you can afford the vet but choose not to, then you don't deserve to have the foal.
     
    07-30-2013, 02:26 PM
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It's not a personal thing at all...ultrasounding is the responsible thing to do..what if something was wrong, you would never know until the foal was either dead or complications at birth happened.
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    07-30-2013, 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Britt    

Please don't tell me what I 'need' to do. It's personal preference to have her ultrasounded by a vet and I chose not to and have already explained my reasoning. Twins are extremely rare, in any case, and I highly doubt she'd have twins anyway, since they are so rare.

And yes, this is the same neighbor and the same stud. For a few minutes, upon realizing she was in heat again, I debated rebreeding her with the other stud, but in the end I chose not to because I like Bear better and he better suits my mare. My neighbor may be older, but he's been a breeder for most of his life and, while he does tend to forget some things, I still trust him and respect him.
If you don't like being told you need to have a vet see your mare why do you keep asking? A vet is the only one that can tell you if she is even still capable of carrying a pregnancy. Not your neighbor, nor random strangers online. Skimping out on something as simple as an US to even check if you mare is pregnant in the first place... Let me guess, you weren't planning on giving any of the recommended pregnant mare vaccines were you?
     

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