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    09-13-2010, 12:30 AM
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Yearling
when should I be concerned about his boy bits?

Mana has recently turned one and I am trying to decide when you get his brains chopped off. The problem is, he only has one of them decended and it is very small. The last time I saw the other one was when he was three months old for a few days and then it went bye bye. I would have figured that if the other one was coming back, it would have done so by now. The one that is down is about two inches long and about the diameter of a dime. I am having the vet out soon as he has managed to hurt his back leg, but I'd like to hear opinions as to what might be the issue here (if there is one.) Should I be concerned? Should I wait a couple more months to see if they straighten themselves out?
He is extremely docile and quiet. Definitely the lowest horse when he was in a bigger herd and now still second. (only because I only have two horses), but not showing any secondary male characteristics as of yet.
(And before anyone gets their panties in a bunch, yes, he is kept with his dam still as there is no where to separate them. The dam had the marble implanted earlier in the season before I sent her to a training facility the housed stallions just to be safe so don't panic. I'm not that stupid, I swear!)
     
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    09-13-2010, 02:25 AM
  #2
Green Broke
You might have to check to see if he is cryptorchid. If so, that can be a problem.

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    09-13-2010, 10:57 PM
  #3
Trained
If it was down, I don't think he's a crypt. Sometimes they come and go for the first year or two. If it's not down by the time he's, say, 18 months then you might have a problem.
But, soon as they're down, they're ready to go!
     
    09-13-2010, 11:05 PM
  #4
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by WSArabians    
If it was down, I don't think he's a crypt. Sometimes they come and go for the first year or two. If it's not down by the time he's, say, 18 months then you might have a problem.
But, soon as they're down, they're ready to go!
My colt has them down and he is only two months old. So I am trying to figure out when I should get him done also. I don't want the little boogers to disappear or something.
     
    09-13-2010, 11:06 PM
  #5
Yearling
You should geld him now, when the vet is out, if he can get a feel he can see if it is truly crypt or not. Likely, if you saw it before it is what is referred to as a "high flanker" and can almost always be removed in the same way as "normal" testes.
     
    09-18-2010, 09:40 PM
  #6
Yearling
My colt is a ridgling. He turned one in June, and I have never seen testes on him at all. I have never been able to feel them either.
     
    09-19-2010, 12:44 AM
  #7
Green Broke
It's amazing how much the boys can vary isn't it? I swear my 2 month old has two! One is a little higher than the other, but it sure looks like there are two peeking out down there.
     
    10-11-2010, 01:38 PM
  #8
Foal
Sounds like your horse is def. A cryptorchid. Get him gelded, and soon. I went through this with one of our foals, who started getting really fiesty at 15months old. We didn't even know he was a crypt. Stallions can regulate the temperature of their testes when they are "down" in the sack. When their teste is retained, they are unable to regulate the temperature and it can cause their hormones to go out of control. They can become dangerous. (explained by my vet, who I later worked for) Never consider a crypt. Stallion for breeding, as it is passed on by the stallion, not the mare, same with hernias.
     
    10-11-2010, 03:41 PM
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Yearling
Thanks for the info every one! I am definitely getting him gelded very soon, but the last week or so got really hot and the bugs are crazy! I want to do it when it gets a little cooler so he isn't being eaten alive by those evil little bugs!
Also, here is a picture that I managed to snap yesterday so you all can see for yourselves.
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    10-11-2010, 07:09 PM
  #10
Weanling
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Originally Posted by HUSAngel    
Sounds like your horse is def. A cryptorchid. Get him gelded, and soon. I went through this with one of our foals, who started getting really fiesty at 15months old. We didn't even know he was a crypt. Stallions can regulate the temperature of their testes when they are "down" in the sack. When their teste is retained, they are unable to regulate the temperature and it can cause their hormones to go out of control. They can become dangerous. (explained by my vet, who I later worked for) Never consider a crypt. Stallion for breeding, as it is passed on by the stallion, not the mare, same with hernias.
I do not beleive that is the reason for their change in behavoir it has more to do with developing testosterone. Cryptoids generally have sperm that are destroyed or altered due to the increased temperatures of the teste from being housed with in the body and can be infertile......but that in itself does not affect their behavoir.

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