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Old 11-05-2009, 08:07 PM   #1
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I was offered the other day by a guy who has a stallion. He wants to breed him to my big girl. I declined the offer because I'm not wanting to breed her any time soon if at all. I was curious though. If in the future someone wants to breed to her who gets the foal? Is there an agreement, payments, what happens? I'm not knowledgeable at all on breeding and have no want to breed. My mare is registered and if I were to breed her it would only be to registered and a proven stud of course. I was just curious on how all that worked?
I know if I wanted to breed her to a stud I pay a fee and all care right and I get the foal? what happens if it's the other way around? Would the studs owner get the foal and what happens with the care, who would cover it. I'm guessing everything would be decided and finalized through contracts but how does that normally work?
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Old 11-05-2009, 08:35 PM   #2
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It depends on what you agree to with the other party. There is no correct way of doing something like that.
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Old 11-05-2009, 08:43 PM   #3
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ok. I wasn't sure. I just want a riding horse right now but maybe in the future. I need to know a lot more to even thing about breeding her.
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Old 11-05-2009, 08:58 PM   #4
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If you pay a breeding fee, you get the foal. You are responsible for all costs associated with breeding and caring for your mare (unless the stallionowner offers free mare care while the mare is at his farm being bred, or etc.)

Some stallion owners will offer a free breeding to a mare owner when they are trying to get offspring of their stallions "out there", especailly if the mare is a really high quality mare, the owners show and promote their horses, etc. In this case the mare owner keeps the foal and will be responsible for everything but the breeding fee (unless the stallion owner offers free mare care, etc.)

Some stallion owners want to "lease" mares, so that they can get foals from their stallion for themselves without buying broodmares (or as many.) Sometimes the lease is a "care lease", meaning that the stallion owner keeps the mare at his facility and pays all her upkeep, and in exchange for caring for her for a certain length of time, gets the foal. Sometimes part of the agreement is to send the mare home bred.

Sometimes there is a "foal swap" where the mare owner keeps the mare at their place, when the mare is bred two years in a row, and one year one party gets the foal, the next time the other party gets the foal. Since the mare owner is paying for the upkeep of the mare the whole time, they usually get the first foal, or get "choice" of whether to take the first foal or wait for the next one.

So, those are some options. All of the above require excellent constant communication and detailed written contracts to really have the best chance of working out in everyone's best interest.

I have no idea what the stallion owner you know has in mind, but I am assuming he wants you to breed your mare and pay a stud fee-- maybe give you a "deal" if she's a nice mare. Its not unusual for stallion owners to go soliciting for mares to come in and be bred-- they don't usually want the foals, they want a breeding fee and they want more mare owners to see those nice foals so more mares get booked the next year, and etc.

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Old 11-05-2009, 09:03 PM   #5
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I have no idea what he wants. he saw my mare while I was giving her a bath yesterday and the direct words were " Beautiful girl. I'd like to breed her to my stallion."
me: "Aww thank you. I'm not breeding her at the moment though."

I didn't even see his horse. I actually have no idea why he was at the barn. Maybe checking stud boarding fees. who knows.
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Unless otherwise noted by a contract, all foals belong to the mare owner.

Glad you're not breeding her just because some random stallion owner thought she was pretty.
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Old 11-19-2009, 09:21 PM   #7
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It all depends on what you and the stallion owner agree upon; some owners will breed the stallion to their mare one year, giving the stallion's owner the first foal, and then the following year, the mare owner will get the next foal.
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I have no idea what he wants. he saw my mare while I was giving her a bath yesterday and the direct words were " Beautiful girl. I'd like to breed her to my stallion."
I'd assume he'd want the foal himself ...
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